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Old 07-01-2020, 07:51 PM   #355 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by MidnightRambler View Post
Yes, but Franco's faction was the one that ultimately won due to their alliance with the Falangists, monarchists, catholics, etc.

I can see the same thing happening here. Just because some of the millennials and Gen Z want socialism doesn't mean that the rest of the groups within American society won't react to crush it with the help of big businesses like Amazon, Comcast, and others that have an extreme amount to lose if socialism became the flavor of the week.


I don't understand why this concern of mine is so difficult to understand but it probably has a lot to do with wishful thinking and pie-in-the-sky idealized visions of utopia; wherein these two generations will take to the streets with their pink pussy hats, crust punk wardrobes, and hammer and sickle flags & the people in power will just voluntarily say "Oh they hate us, we had better step aside and let them have their socialism"

With the stranglehold that the 0.01% has on the American information infrastructure I can easily see them reacting by saying "Ok, we'll have socialism" and then you'll just have a form of fascism that will be called socialism... just like how the USSR was apparently "state capitalism" but called themselves socialist.

It's wishful thinking at best, horribly naive at it's worst and the groupthink doesn't surprise me at all with having dealt with DSA in the past when I actually believed socialism was a viable future & then the reality was that nobody can agree on anything aside from the need for ever increasing virtue signals to "marginalized groups" (that they all somehow manage to fall into, despite being uniformly white and upper middle class)
That... isn't at all how authoritarian socialism happens. It isn't ever how its happened. It's either been a violent revolution or a post-WW2 dickwaving contest between America and Russia.

I don't think anyone truly believes that marching in the street will result in true socialism since they're well aware the power that the establishment has and that they won't give it up short of violent revolution with their heads on spikes. They're either just satisfied with or willing to settle for something more along the lines of Sweden or Denmark which are far less ****ty than America.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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