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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks
This is an interesting question and I've heard convincing arguments on both sides of it. If you're generally an across-the-board liberal on all or most issues, then it would make sense to vote for Biden just for the supreme court appointments.
But, if you're a progressive who feels like Biden has made little or no effort to compromise with a progressive agenda, then perhaps he hasn't done enough to earn your vote. Perhaps, by abstaining from the election, they could show the Democrats and the DNC that, if they want to win elections in the future, they have to throw them a bone and implement some of their policy proposals.
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So the Biden-Bernie task force and the recommendations that came from it weren't enough for you?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/polit...ons/index.html
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Originally Posted by The Batlord
Representative democracy is a terrible form of government because people are stupid and easily led sheep just waiting for the right manipulator to herd them in a certain direction. Representative democracy's only real benefit after you cast off all the propaganda bull**** about "will of the people" and "freedom" is that elected officials have to at least consider the will of the people when deciding policy.
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And what form of government would you suggest we adopt?
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Originally Posted by jwb
This is a rather melodramatic framing of the question. You act like anyone owes Biden their vote. Not voting for him isn't "overturning" anyone else's vote.
I'm undecided as to whether I'll vote for him based on some of Trump's latest authoritarian stunts but if I do it certainly won't be out of any sort of loyalty to the Democrats or Biden.
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You don't owe him your vote. But assuming you're a registered Democrat, and you participated in the primary, I have to wonder why you wouldn't support the party in the general?
Ezra Klein recently wrote that we live in a weak-party timeline where people don't have party loyalty, so it adds up that people take this position. But I can't help but think its illogical.
What was the reason you participated in the primary? Presumably one issue. Do you not think that issue is advanced in a Biden administration? I really think people are undervaluing Congressional control, and way way
way over valuing the Presidency.
Why do people think the White House means a damn thing after Obama? Why do people assume Bernie would have done anything in the White House?