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Originally Posted by elphenor
I think terms like Hardcore Punk and Anarcho Punk exist with the idea that Ramones are ground zero Punk
to retroactively go back and call Ramones pop punk because they aren't Subhumans is super weird
Ramones are not in a genre they are the genre
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um all genres are retroactive. A band can be both punk and pop punk; pop punk is a subgenre. *insert obligatory venn diagram*