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Old 01-02-2021, 04:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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duh, the hooks are just an example but there is clearly a difference in poppiness between the Ramones or the Buzzcocks and bands like the Sex Pistols
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duh, the hooks are just an example but there is clearly a difference in poppiness between the Ramones or the Buzzcocks and bands like the Sex Pistols
is there?

God Save the Queen is like the same idea
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this is just not even the same genre as pop punk, again
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is there?

God Save the Queen is like the same idea
Just play God Save the Queen vs. Ever Fallen In Love to a bunch of what you call normies and see
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is that the dividing line?

Sex Pistols are on like Guitar Hero, they're pretty damn palatable

the term "pop punk" is for when you're talking about Avril Lavigne

the word is totally meaningless if you're trying to split hairs between OG punk bands
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punk is the democratic seizing of the means of production of Pop



pop punk is a purposefully sanitized totally commercial ploy that is not at all even really trying to be the same thing
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is that the dividing line?

Sex Pistols are on like Guitar Hero, they're pretty damn palatable

the term "pop punk" is for when you're talking about Avril Lavigne

the word is totally meaningless if you're trying to split hairs between OG punk bands
it's certainly not a dividing line, just an example that came to mind. Not a very good example, I'll admit that. Of course the Sex Pistols are accessible too; so are many metal bands which certainly aren't pop. There is clearly a difference in attitude and sound with the Ramones/Buzzcocks; a difference sufficiently big that I wouldn't call it splitting hairs. I find writing about music hard so I'm not good at explaining it but I think you know what I mean
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Pop punk was coined in 1977. Ridiculously prescient if elph's definition is right.
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