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Old 08-20-2021, 07:56 PM   #444 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jadis View Post
If co-op implies a power-sharing arrangement where there is no hierarchy and no one is sovereign, do those really exist in China?
It's a business owned by the employees. It can still have a hierarchy as managers and paygrades can be voted on. It doesn't really require socialism. It's just that capitalism tends toward strict hierarchies and ownership by one or a limited amount of people.

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I honestly know very little about China and most of the time have no idea what people mean nowadays when they say "socialism", it can refer to literally anything: "the opposite of America" or "labor unions" or "everything I was taught to be afraid of" or "Stalin's USSR" or "Nancy Pelosi" or "Scandinavian social democracy" or "an anarchist commune" or "the Parisian decadence of the satanic pedophile Michel Foucault" or "literally Hitler", depending on what image has a grip on the speaker's imagination.
You sound angry. Are you okay? If you know what Marxism and anarcho syndicalism are then I'm sure you know that Nancy Pelosi does not qualify. So exactly what axe are you grinding?
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