Originally Posted by hxcbill

I think its funny that people keep saying that grind is an extension of punk, i also find it interesting that metalcore was described but hardcore was left out. and you have math metal but not mathcore, which by the way is what ghingis tron, and earlier Dillenger Escape Plan would be classified under not grind, grind bands would be bands like Creation is crucifixion, Monster X and Passover, which then leads into power violence (Man is the Bastard, Orchid and Charles Bronson), these genres are were more of an offspring of 2nd wave hardcore and death and thrash. i believe these genres are valid and strong enough to stand on there own, and not a little blurb under punk, which also leads to why is punk so over looked here?
old school punk
politipunk
pop-punk
power-punk
crust-punk
gutter-punk
hardcore-punk
i realize im may be coming off like kind of a **** and thats not my intention, im just tired or these groups being over looked in these types of forums.
so please take this post merely as a constructive criticism, with a few suggestions.

hxcb
oh and also the rest of the post is awesome.