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I did look, I just looked again. I've found several things specifically stating he doesn't, even the official Barack Obama site and I've even found him Edwards critisizing Clinton for taking money for lobbyists. So please, provide me with these links you supposedly have.
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I just googled Obama lobbyists, and found an article in the Boston Globe that says specifically, Obama took from lobbyists, and yet for some reason, has chosen to attack Clinton on that topic.
That's weird that you would have found something supporting your argument on Obama's website. Politician's websites are usually the most slanderous of their own underhandedness.
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I said McCain is who I'd pick for the republicans stop trying to put words in my mouth.
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You do realize, the winner from each party of these nominations will eventually battle each other in this big showdown called the *2008 presidential election* don't you? Let me put it in the form of a question. Would you vote for McCain over Clinton, if McCain won R's and Clinton won D's?
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Um, what part of isn't in the race anymore don't you understand? He dropped out.
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From my understanding, he dropped out of the race for nomination of electorate under the 2 major parties. He can still run as an independent. Even I can run.
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Yeah because she's worse.
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no, she's the same
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Um you were saying she had the peoples interest at heart.
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She does. I'm aware that she appears as being fake sometimes, but you can't run a campaign by just stating facts. You have to glitz it up a bit, and do all kinds of fancy photo-ops. Al Gore found that out the hard way.
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Where did she say she was wrong on the War? I know she's changed her opinion on it but I've never seen her admit she was wrong.
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Her opinion on it changed the day that she found out, it was going to be a full-blown war. Like I stated earlier, she didn't know at the time that what she was voting on was the war. She only voted for the troops to go over and look for the WMD's. It's not the same thing as the war. Bush basically took that initial go-ahead, and then made it troop surge after troop surge until he made it the situation it is today. That's why everyone was so mad about the war, remember? Bush said we were going to look for WMD's, and then it turned out he had a different agenda altogether-to get the man who tried to murder his dad (Sadam) and now that we've got him, we continues to compound his mistakes by trying to make it look like he wasn't lying.
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I do and even if I didn't I'm still providing evidence to back up my claims while you're just making things up.
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Yeah, it's pretty fun. I'm always right in my own mind.
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This isn't high school, you don't just go "Oh I'm going to vote for them based on their gender or race so I can prove a point" and completely ignore any of their issues or beliefs.
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I pre-emptively made that comment in the previous post and responded to it, just so I wouldn't have to deal with it later. I already said, the 2 parties are the same, and if you already know that I think Obama and Clinton are the best candidates (I've already stated this many times, and I did so on the merit of their political ideas), then why should it matter to you that I think it's a plus that one is a minority, and one is a woman. It shouldn't
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Oh boohoo, if that was true and people blindly believed the media she wouldn't be doing so well would she?
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My thinking is more down the line, where Hilary is going to get voted against in the actual presidential election by people who swear (it's not just because she's a woman, it's her, see the T.V. agh! She made an evil face!) I'm worried that all this B.S. propaganda is going to cost her the presidency, and it saddens me that some people won't even vote for her, because of such specious reasoning.