One on the fact that The US punks made claims after the event with the Pistols (like Urban hatemonger said)
and two because the Clash said (strummer) on The Story of the Clash that he was directly inspired by seeing the pistols.
3 Mclaren manged what he is calling the first punk band
4 proto punk is a crap phrase used to make out something was the inspiration or guiding force or start but the psitols had never heard of them as they were only kids of 16 and when they did come over to latch on to the New Punk scene they were beaten up and told to F off.
I say two nill as I don't want it to look like a rout too early on and I have to give them a chance as I know many pro americans feels very touchy about the fact that the UK invented what is worldwide known as punk music and punk politics and punk culture not just drug culture like Richard Hell et al.
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