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Originally Posted by adidasss
Obviously not so trivial. And I don't know why you put having in quotations, it's obviously a social imperative, regardless whether most women unthinkingly conform to it, and as such very much deserves to be questioned.
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Originally Posted by boo boo
Aidasss is PMSing again.
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Boo boo, I feel your joke at adidasss' expense is sexist, homophobic, and hurtful. I wish you wouldn't have made it.
You are trying to say that adidasss' point isn't valid or important (when in fact it is a good point, and I know that because I agree with him!
). Yet instead of saying your feelings, you try to put him down by claiming he is a woman, so that's sexist AND homophobic. Being ga
y has nothing to do with someone's gender identity. Also, there is nothing wrong with women menstruating and having mood changes related to hormone fluctuations.
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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent
being sexually defined is a nuisance
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I agree.
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Originally Posted by Janszoon
I think people should be able to do whatever they want. Why should I care whether they shave or not?
For what it's worth, I'd love to be able to wear sandals and sleeveless shirts around the office in the summer the way women are allowed to.
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I agree that people should be able to do what they want with their bodies and not be disciminated against either socially or in their jobs because of their bodies' physical appearance.
If you weren't getting a job because you are disabled and someone doesn't like how you look, you'd feel that is wrong (right?). So, if you aren't getting a job because you are fat or you have a beard and someone doesn't like how you look, that should also be wrong. Why care? Because someday it might be YOU being discriminated against? I care because people are hurt by discrimination.
Why can't you wear sandals and sleeveless shirts around the office?
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Originally Posted by Lateralus
I would love to not have to wear a bra every single day, is this another thing that females dislike about their gender just out of curiosity? (I'm directing this question at the girls, here). Because I hate bras so much, they are the most uncomfortable things in the world, I would love be able to just wear a shirt without a bra, and not worry about my boobs jiggling around or nipples showing. I hate bras.
I also would have loved to wear pants during high school, instead of the segregated boys and girls uniforms, which still occur in Australia and many other places in the world. So impractical.
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I stopped wearing a bra around 10 years ago, for the very reasons you mention...and yes, my breasts jiggle and my nipples show, and sometimes I feel a little uncomfortable about that...exposed, as if I were being lewd by not wearing a bra. But I fight that feeling of fear because I know that's how breasts are and there's nothing wrong with them. It's very liberating!
And no one has ever commented on or reacted to my not wearing a bra in public, so that makes it easier.
Girls being forced to wear skirts in school sounds SO archaic, Lateralus! That's one great thing about most U.S. public schools: no uniforms.
If all the girls in an Australian school organized and wore pants on one day, I bet the school district would change its uniform policy quickly. How sad that the *parents* haven't stood up and fought this old-fashioned, sexist uniform policy!
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Originally Posted by jibber
This is another reason why it's good to be a woman, there isn't a single item of clothing that people would look twice at a woman wearing. Even wearing a tuxedo to a formal event isn't all that uncommon anymore (so long as it's nicely tailored). A man however showing up in a sparkling evening gown...
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Yep, I argued earlier in the thread that one of the reasons I like being a woman rather than a man is that women in the U.S. have a lot of social freedom regarding dress and physical appearance, just like you say. Where I live, I can wear shirt or pants, have long head hair or short hair, pretty much wear anything I like. The one remaining sexist problem regarding dress here is that I can't expose my breasts in public unless I'm breastfeeding, while men go topless all the time without being arrested.
Another benefit of being a U.S. woman is that no one mutilated my clitoris, while here in the U.S. people cut little baby boys' penises all the time just for looks and tradition.