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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier
Nearly all the ENTIRE subject matter of this forum revolves around music. Most of the posters on here aren`t musicians, yet they discuss music on here. Does this make them fake, given the fact that they aren`t musicians?
I think you`re an apologist for Varg Vikernes.
Not when that person goes round and round in circles.
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Music is not only something you play, but something you listen to. This forum is for music. Not musicians only. Music listeners, I'm sure, have something to say about music.
Also, if a band is singing about what fun it is to perform abortions but they have never performed abortions, that is one thing. If the members of said band happen to be life-long dedicated members of a an anti-abortion activist group... i would be perturbed. Why are you singing about how fun it is to perform abortions when you have a deeply held belief that abortion is the ultimate evil?
That, to me, is the difference between singing about something you do not practice, and promoting something with your music that is the exact opposite of your most deeply held ideals.
I'm not really sure where you are getting my apologist standpoint from. i was merely responding to the statement you made that Varg knows nothing about extreme (suggesting that Tom Araya does?) by mentioning that if you were to compare the two, Varg is most definitely the more extreme. I had previously stated that I don't necessarily agree with Varg's ideals or actions.
And, no, attacking someone in a rude way is not effective, even if you think they are going around in circles.
You, however, are going around in circles because you have attempted to deter me from MY OWN OPINION with the same tactics (offering up faulty analogies) over and over again.
Why exactly is it that you are so determined to deter me from my opinion? The point of this thread is to offer reasons why you like a band/album that others don't like. Not to attack people based on their reasons for disliking them.
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier
Didn`t see this little snippet till after posting.
I think we both know what I`m speaking about here. The reference to power metal was just one example from a majority of metal genres, as opposed to the minority where vocals aren`t really understood at all, so lets not split hairs.
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To be honest... I'm not splitting hairs. I'm merely suggesting that I think the amount of metal bands with indiscernible lyrics has the majority over the amount of metal bands with lyrics you can understand.
For instance, the only genres (that I can think of) in which you can usually hear the lyrics are classic metal and power metal. Classic metal is a dead genre. There are no new classic metal bands and there are very few modern bands who imitate classic bands such as iron maiden or black sabbath. That leaves one genre... power metal... which is not (in my experience) the largest of the metal genres. You could even include thrash as having usually clear and i would still say that:
Death and black metal (I think) are the largest genres (and include many sub-genres) and usually you cannot hear the lyrics. Therefore... I do not consider it to be splitting hairs to suggest that the majority of metal bands that exist or have existed have vocals with indiscernible lyrics.