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Rainard Jalen 01-03-2008 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpb938 (Post 427660)
I personally enjoyed 10,000 days more than lateralus. Lateralus got really slow at times, and lacked punch. However 10000 days is less overproduced and is just a more edgy feel (ie rosetta stoned) which I liked a lot.

That's the first time I've heard that viewpoint. Personally I think Lateralus is crammed with great rocker after great rocker. Up until the trilogy at the end which isn't particularly enthralling at all (Triad is quite menacing though, it sounds like some mad war dance. I appreciate it for that quality).

655321 01-03-2008 03:58 PM

ok i noticed this and although i dont liscen to them much id like to say heres a crazy guy in town that say god took away his wings and they'll be returned in 10,000 days

Rainard Jalen 01-03-2008 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 655321 (Post 427667)
ok i noticed this and although i dont liscen to them much id like to say heres a crazy guy in town that say god took away his wings and they'll be returned in 10,000 days

sigh. i don't think maynard wants to be taken quite THAT seriously.

655321 01-03-2008 06:18 PM

this guys pretty messed up he "argues with god" alot

depending on how bad he is it goes from why am i alive why arent i dead to why did yo tkae my wings to we have to hide the demons are coming

tkpb938 01-03-2008 07:07 PM

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this guys pretty messed up he "argues with god" alot

depending on how bad he is it goes from why am i alive why arent i dead to why did yo tkae my wings to we have to hide the demons are coming
Admitted Maynard is a little messed up (look up the live performance of Sober on youtube) but thats why the music is good.

Regarding your other points, those were metaphors. I'm not sure if you were serious lol.

655321 01-04-2008 08:22 PM

no he really walks up and down the yelling this stuff

xplore 01-05-2008 11:52 AM

yes, I agree that

Merkaba 01-05-2008 02:13 PM

^ I'd be super happy with some sort of live dvd to finish things off. Mind you I'm not too sure I want them to end on 10,000 Days either. It's quite a tough one, if they produce an album thats not "up to the mark" it will be around 2010 when they finish up as a band and I'm sure for many it will mean it's been a decade of Tool since they were firing on all cylinders (ie Lateralus). Because I mean I don't know too many people who feel 10000 Days is Tool at their best. Although if they were to produce an awesome album it will be 20 years of going from strength to strength.

And on the idea of members carrying on, Maynard will probably still be doing some strange project/collaboration long into his zimmer frame years.

blachalaheebow 01-20-2008 09:29 PM

I think 10,000 days was pretty good, but not quite as good as aenima or lateralus. better than undertow, though. As it was with lateralus, it took me a few listens to fully apreciate it.

under 01-20-2008 09:46 PM

98 was a good year for TOOL, the release of lateralus and there great shows were impressive. they've had some great times in 07' especially when i got to see them live!

blachalaheebow 01-20-2008 09:48 PM

lucky... I missed their tour last year.

under 01-20-2008 09:55 PM

i nearly did.
i went and saw them in december. dude it was so amazing! i was lucky they came to Seattle because they never tour on the west coast. it was one of my dreams that came true. to see Tool live. its completely a must see show especially with the light show. pretty much the most amazing show i went to last year.

Rainard Jalen 01-22-2008 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by awriterslastresort (Post 433578)
i nearly did.
i went and saw them in december. dude it was so amazing! i was lucky they came to Seattle because they never tour on the west coast.

er, they're based in California where they always have plenty of gigs when touring. They also played in George and Seattle in 2006. And Portland last year.

O'Bannion 01-25-2008 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by awriterslastresort (Post 433569)
98 was a good year for TOOL, the release of lateralus and there great shows were impressive


I think you mean 2001....

Rainard Jalen 01-25-2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by O'Bannion (Post 435208)
I think you mean 2001....

He was mixing years and IQs.

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-25-2008 01:01 PM

Well this was written by a guy who's heard new material by the Sex Pistols even though they've never played or recorded any yet.

Dworkshop1 01-25-2008 07:18 PM

I think Tool delivered a decent album with 10,000 days. the songs that count as songs I think are up there with the best of their older great tunes. their production is always top notch, and it felt to me as if they took this album a little less serious. Their live shows have got to be considered some of the greatest rock experiences since Floyd.

treping 02-01-2008 01:45 PM

not my fav of tool , but very good

Farfisa 02-08-2008 10:33 AM

10,000 days is missing something..........

achoo 02-08-2008 02:53 PM

yeah 10, 000 days is by far their worst album, i think, and i love tool. this one was a huge let down in the same way NIN now blow too!

tkpb938 02-08-2008 03:38 PM

Wow I'm surprised so many people are taking that stance. I personally liked it quite a bit...

Rainard Jalen 02-08-2008 03:52 PM

why is it that Tool are often grouped together with NIN? musically they have nothing in common, only particular common ground is the lamea$s hackneyed lyrical content.

.Tom. 02-08-2008 04:28 PM

I thought 10,000 Days was a good album really, although it doesn't sound like it should have taken so long to write. There's lots of filler, but the actual full-on music is decent, at least. However, I'd say it's by far their least creative album. It sounds like an afraid, small step away from Lateralus, with less song and more filler.

Rainard Jalen 02-09-2008 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by .Tom. (Post 441175)
I thought 10,000 Days was a good album really, although it doesn't sound like it should have taken so long to write.

Hint: it didn't.

achoo 02-10-2008 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 441159)
why is it that Tool are often grouped together with NIN? musically they have nothing in common, only particular common ground is the lamea$s hackneyed lyrical content.

agreed. i'm sorry i put them in the same category. i think they are lumped in there due to the fact that all kids who enjoyed tool enjoyed NIN. and mostly it was just me wanting to talk about two bands that were good but one easily grows out of and who's last album blew something terrible!

Farfisa 02-11-2008 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by achoo (Post 442029)
agreed. i'm sorry i put them in the same category. i think they are lumped in there due to the fact that all kids who enjoyed tool enjoyed NIN. and mostly it was just me wanting to talk about two bands that were good but one easily grows out of and who's last album blew something terrible!

yeah i used to be one of those kids.........

tkpb938 02-11-2008 08:07 PM

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yeah i used to be one of those kids.........
Haha... I think we all were. Before MB at least.

O'Bannion 02-12-2008 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by achoo (Post 441145)
he same way NIN now blow too!


What?!?!?!


Year Zero is easily Reznor's best album since The Downward Spiral. And now that he has no ties to record labels, he's going to go full force on his next releases.

Rainard Jalen 02-12-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O'Bannion (Post 442737)
What?!?!?!


Year Zero is easily Reznor's best album since The Downward Spiral. And now that he has no ties to record labels, he's going to go full force on his next releases.

i admire your optimism.

year zero was marginally just about alright. no fireworks or nothing. i'm amazed that anybody was able to force themselves to love it so much.

tkpb938 02-12-2008 03:51 PM

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Well, it's now conclusive. Rainard Jalen is the ****ing worst person ever.
Haha... Ya all I hear out of RainardJalen is negativity, and its pretty damn annoying.

Instead of constantly hating on artists why not do something useful with yourself and recommend music and share bands that you find interesting etc. etc.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-12-2008 05:47 PM

How does saying something is 'marginally just about alright' hating on something?

He could have easily said it was about as appealing as a festering dog turd.
I would have.

O'Bannion 02-12-2008 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 442741)
i'm amazed that anybody was able to force themselves to love it so much.


Didn't force ****. It's better and tighter than The Fragile and it's obviously miles and miles ahead of With Teeth.

tkpb938 02-12-2008 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 442823)
How does saying something is 'marginally just about alright' hating on something?

He could have easily said it was about as appealing as a festering dog turd.
I would have.

I don't think I've once seen any positive feed back come from him whatsoever. All he does is bitch and complain about bands he doesn't like. It's kinda bugging me. Maybe he does have something positive to say, but if so I haven't seen it.

Rainard Jalen 02-13-2008 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 442882)
It's just gratingly arrogant of him to say that other people forced themselves to like it. And coming from a guy who thinks that Michael Bolton is the "King of Swing"...

Well, I have nothing to say to that. You are fully aware that none of that Bolton stuff was serious and even then, you use it to slate me? LOL. Seriously, how could anybody say those things about Bolton and mean them? Even his fans don't take him seriously. Jesus. You HAD to have known I wasn't serious.

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Originally Posted by tkbwhateveryournameis
I don't think I've once seen any positive feed back come from him whatsoever. All he does is bitch and complain about bands he doesn't like. It's kinda bugging me. Maybe he does have something positive to say, but if so I haven't seen it.

You haven't been in enough threads that I've been posting in, then. I post most of the time to discuss bands that I like.


ON THE TOPIC, Year Zero wasn't a good album. It just was not. It was laughable. Please, go and listen to God Given and try not to laugh. It's f'cuking hard.

ProggyMan 03-03-2008 09:59 PM

Is there a reason why you posted three times?

tkpb938 03-03-2008 10:01 PM

Spamming? It seems fairly obvious to me..

crow t robot 03-08-2008 12:35 AM

Aenima is still my favorite Tool LP, but they've never put anything out that I didn't really enjoy...I have 10,000 days but I have yet to give it the attention and multiple listens that a Tool album really deserves..I should do that

Rainard Jalen 03-08-2008 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by crow t robot (Post 452533)
Aenima is still my favorite Tool LP, but they've never put anything out that I didn't really enjoy...I have 10,000 days but I have yet to give it the attention and multiple listens that a Tool album really deserves..I should do that

With 10,000 Days, you'll know most of what there is to know after one listen.

mark1990celtic1888 03-08-2008 03:35 AM

great info, great review. thanks.

Ace 08-28-2008 02:43 AM

All that being said, I think Trent Reznor had some great inspiration by giving that last album the name "With Teeth".
It's quite obvious he was thinking of Vagina Dentata.


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