Lou Reed, Metal Machine Music

MajorBluntz · 08-31-2009, 07:12 PM

i never liked Lou Reed voice.

anabundanceoftubes · 09-01-2009, 09:38 AM

Great review. I completely agree. It has its moments, and I totally respect the experiment. But I have no intention of ever listening to it again. And I agree with Kamikazi Kat. It's always nice when reviewers put their personal opinions aside.
ha I just realized I'm two months too late...but whatever I still enjoyed the review.

Guybrush · 09-01-2009, 10:06 AM

Lou Reed himself when asked about it jokingly said in an interview that noone's musical career should be able to survive after an album like MMM.

It's ****e and treating it like art makes it pretentious ****e which is even worse. 5/10 is way more than I'd give it.

Anyways .. that's my opinion.

edit :

Albumdude, yes - you were asked to review this album as a joke. Good on you for having stepped up to the plate though!

cardboard adolescent · 09-01-2009, 10:31 AM

^^ doesn't get it

Guybrush · 09-01-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

^^ doesn't get it

To "get it" would be like praising Marcel Duchamp's Fountain (toilet). The real point of that exhibition was that a famous artist can sell or make art of anything, even a toilet (or in Reed's case, just noise) and get away with it - or even get praised for it.

If you think you "understand" MMM, then you should be aware there's a joke floating around somewhere - and it's on you.

Eberger0001 · 09-01-2009, 12:31 PM

I went through a really stressful period in my life about a year ago, and I listened to MMM on almost a daily basis. It was cathartic, and I later found out that was the same reason Lou Reed made the album. However, strangely, I never found it to be all that of an abrasive album.

cardboard adolescent · 09-01-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by toretorden

To "get it" would be like praising Marcel Duchamp's Fountain (toilet). The real point of that exhibition was that a famous artist can sell or make art of anything, even a toilet (or in Reed's case, just noise) and get away with it - or even get praised for it.

If you think you "understand" MMM, then you should be aware there's a joke floating around somewhere - and it's on you.

no, that's not the point. sorry.

5-Track · 09-01-2009, 06:06 PM

I hugely enjoy Metal Machine Music. Also very cool is the recent-ish live performance of MMM, and also Lou's current Metal Machine Trio improv group.

Guybrush · 09-02-2009, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

no, that's not the point. sorry.

I wasn't trying to explain the "point" of MMM. All I'm saying is that if I were to poop on a platter and hand it to you, you would say "this is crap". If Lou Reed does it, some people no longer recognise the crap because it's got his name all over it. However, his crap is still just as crappy as everyone else's.

If I ever do make a double album with just noise, I'll send it your way .. maybe you'll dig it.

I guess there might be some underlying point to MMM, after all he's said he was serious about the record, although quite drugged up. It's just that in a world where there's so much music with so many good ideas that are executed in a way that makes them so much more pleasing to listen to, I'm not gonna spend time listening to a double album which frankly gets irritating within the first minute. There's enough good "points" in music that I don't have to go digging for the one burried in the biggest pile of **** I can find.

cardboard adolescent · 09-02-2009, 07:28 AM

geh, i was just being a pretentious douche for the sake of being a pretentious douche. in a bad mood i guess. but i take the 'point' (if not for mmm, at least for duchamp) to be the destruction of value as such. not 'this is crap but i'm presenting it as art' but 'everything is crap, so it doesn't matter what i present.' it's very transcendental in the sense of ecclesiastes... everything below is futile, so look up.

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Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	Lou Reed himself when asked about it jokingly said in an interview that noone's musical career should be able to survive after an album like MMM. It's **e and treating it like art makes it pretentious *e which is even worse. 5/10 is way more than I'd give it. Anyways .. that's my opinion. edit : Albumdude, yes - you were asked to review this album as a joke. Good on you for having stepped up to the plate though! __________________ Something Completely Different*

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Eberger0001 Groupie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 18	I went through a really stressful period in my life about a year ago, and I listened to MMM on almost a daily basis. It was cathartic, and I later found out that was the same reason Lou Reed made the album. However, strangely, I never found it to be all that of an abrasive album. __________________ Manifesto!!!

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08-31-2009, 07:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
MajorBluntz Groupie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bay Area. Posts: 5	i never liked Lou Reed voice.

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anabundanceoftubes Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Maggie's farm Posts: 56	Great review. I completely agree. It has its moments, and I totally respect the experiment. But I have no intention of ever listening to it again. And I agree with Kamikazi Kat. It's always nice when reviewers put their personal opinions aside. ha I just realized I'm two months too late...but whatever I still enjoyed the review.

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cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	^^ doesn't get it

09-02-2009, 07:28 AM	#20 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	geh, i was just being a pretentious douche for the sake of being a pretentious douche. in a bad mood i guess. but i take the 'point' (if not for mmm, at least for duchamp) to be the destruction of value as such. not 'this is crap but i'm presenting it as art' but 'everything is crap, so it doesn't matter what i present.' it's very transcendental in the sense of ecclesiastes... everything below is futile, so look up.