Why I Don't Think Sgt. Pepper Is The Best Beatles Album
 

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Ok. I am going to step into some "controversial" thoughts here. I am kinda stepping on pins and needles.

I do not think Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band is the best Beatles album. It IS a great album, and was the 1st Beatles album I ever heard. I just think it gets a little overrated for what it is.

The songs vary from some of my favorites to some that I forget.

BEST
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Lonely Rita
Sgt. Peppers Lonely Heart's Club Band (Reprise)
Sgt. Peppers Lonely Heart's Club Band
She's Leaving Home
Within You, Without You


^ These songs are just fantastic. I can always listen to those.


FORGETTABLE
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Getting Better
Fixing A Hole
Being The Benefit Of Mr. Kite
When I'm Sixty-Four
Good Morning

^ These songs I just don't think are memorable.

What about "With A Little Help From My Friends, Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, & A Day In The Life?"

Those songs are great, yet are overplayed.


The songs are great, I just hear them SO much that it kind of wares off in the end. Again, they are not bad. I just think they get way too much radio play.


What are my favorite albums by The Beatles?
(Get Ready... I might get someone mad)


Revolver And Rubber Soul


Revolver and Rubber Soul barely have any songs that radio plays. Probably the most I hear on the radio are Norwegian Wood, Yellow Submarine, Taxman, and Eleanor Rigby.

These albums are overlooked by a lot of people. A lot of songs may be forgettable to some but that is their own opinion. Just like this list.


Again, this is all opinion. Leave your opinions below.

There's a ton of folks who pick Revolver over Peppers. Pepper's represented a watershed moment in the evolving history of rock music. Kind of like there was rock before SP and then there was rock after SP. That's why I think it's so revered. Is it the band's best collection of songs? Nope.

For me it would be Abbey Road.

Chula said if perfectly. Peppers was probably the most groundbreaking Beatles album but I think most fans would end up picking Revolver or maybe even the White Album.

Now calling these songs Fogettable, thems fightin words:

Getting Better
Fixing A Hole
Being The Benefit Of Mr. Kite
When I'm Sixty-Four
Good Morning

Strawberry Fields is the fashionable choice. Peppers for me though.

I'll always say Sgt Peppers is easily the best Beatles album. It's my favorite album as well.

The White album for me.

I just like the quirkiness of it. I got a sense of the unexpected when I first listened to it and the controversies behind the scenes add to it's appeal. I'm not a huge Beatles fan, but given the choices I'd put the White album on before anything else.

Booo!

Magical Mystery Tour is The Beatles' best attempt at psychedelic music and thus their best album. **** Penny Lane though. Your opinion isn't all that controversial unless you were posting it on a Beatles fan forum (I think there's one called music-discussion).

MMT isn't consistent enough for me. A few stellar tracks. Peppers is more consistent and also have great tracks.

http://www.musicbanter.com/rock-n-ro...les-album.html

You're not alone.

I thought Being for the Benefit of Mr.Kite was one of best their songs. The way they did sampling in the song makes it decades ahead of its time.

If I remember correctly George Martin said that Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane(?) were slotted for the Sgt. Pepper album. He said he gave into the rec exec wanted a single to be released. He is it was one of his biggest regrets that he didn't hold out and save them for the Sgt. Pepper album.

I just don't remember these songs as much as others. Fighting words indeed

3rd Favorite. Or 4th favorite with the 2 parts. LOL.

When I was growing up my friends would either choose Revolver or Rubber Soul as their favorite Beatles album. By the time we graduated high school, Abbey Road was the album of choice for them. I personally have always preferred the White Album.

It may not be all that consistent musically, but I think every track (with the exception of Penny Lane. **** you, Penny Lane) on there is fantastic. She's Leaving Home and Being For the Benefit of Mr. Kite are the only ones that stand up to most of the tracks on MMT imo. A Day In the Life is great as well but except for the end bit, it doesn't quite get up to that level for me.

Funny, I think those 3 are the *least* good songs on the album. Especially Rita, which IMO is the only truly disposable song on the album.

Getting Better and Fixing a Hole are two of my favorites on the album. I also really like Sixty-Four, even though it's not a terribly serious song - but, the change of mood is one reason it fits so great on the album. Also, the bridge totally "makes" that song IMO ("You'll be older too"). Good Morning and Mr Kite are good songs but not standouts, so I'll agree with you on those.

As for the best Beatles albums, it's pretty much a 3-way tie between Rubber Soul, Revolver and Sgt Pepper, but I'd give a very slight edge to Rubber Soul.

In fact, now that I think of it, if you asked me to name my favorite song on the album, I think I'd name Getting Better.

And like Sixty-Four, the bridge is magnificent.

I used to be cruel to my woman I'd beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved
Man I was mean but I'm changing my scene and I'm doing the best that I can

Makes me choke up a bit, actually.

Fixing a hole is so not forgettable. Although I have had some killer times on that record. So I love it. But it is in no way shape or form my favorite. And Getting Better is amazing. It's catchy, and lyrically quite deep in the universally relateable way that makes the Beatles one of the greatest bands in history.

Edit: I think I misread you. Heh oops.

Clearly if you think a song like Fixing A Hole is forgettable along with all the others this may be why you are having problems thinking this album is their best, or one of them. In my opinion the album must be listened to as a entire piece of work to get what the Beatles were trying to accomplish here......We could debate for moths or years for that matter the good and bad of this album, but in the long run I believe the entire album is a masterpiece.:bowdown:

You're out of your marbles saying Getting Better Fixing A Hole Being The Benefit Of Mr. Kite and When I'm Sixty-Four are forgettable. Those songs are some of the Beatles best songs, especially When I'm Sixty-Four.

Weird. I love the album and I always considered 64 to be kind of a filler track.

Your Mother Should Have Known Better in my opinion does not even come close to anything that was offered on Sgt. Pepper nor does Flying, even Fool On The Hill is weak from a lyric and musical standpoint......Most of the songs presented on MMT were "singles". Six of the 11 songs were brought out as singles hardly a stellar writing commitment..........Don't get me wrong those 6 songs are probably the best on the entire album.....Strawberry Fields is a stunning song, but to be honest at one time the Beatles fully intended to have Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields included on the Sgt. Pepper album!

See Flying and Fool on the Hill are a couple of my top Beatles tracks so we can chalk this one up to taste. Your Mother Should Know isn't as good as most tracks from Peppers so I agree on that.

^ Strictly speaking the MMT album, as released in the US, was a compilation album, which makes your comment a bit puzzling, neardeath. Are you complaining that a compilation album compiled old singles?

In England, MMT was released in a rather irritating double-EP format with six songs on it. The US record company quite sensibly fleshed it out with old singles to make a full album. But it means that in comparing Sgt. P to MMT, we are comparing an album that was composed and produced as an entity with an album that was patched together to suit marketing policy.

I agree it's not the best, in fact I think Rubber Soul, Revolver, and Abbey Road are all superior, but I feel as though nothing off it is forgettable. I can understand how you'd think most of those are, but I will stick up for Mr. Kite until the day I die.

Mr Kite is genius as pop songs go, so inventive and interesting whilst being appealing and simple at the same time. A Day in the Life is also just one of the best album closes ever.

However, I prefer Revolver and it's mixture of sounds and styles, psychedelic overall, but with slow ballads and rockier stuff infused to form short, sharp songs that are really timeless. Pepper kind of loosely has a concept briefly, but it doesn't quite lead anywhere musically, so although I think every track on there is really good and works, I think the Beatles are best at their best when their albums are eclectic and concise, which is why Revolver, The White Album, and Abbey Road are all stronger in my opinion.

Actually I was pointing out that unlike Sgt. Pepper MMT was made up mostly of previously heard "singles" call it what ever you want I do not believe that the album was presented as a "compilation" or that would have been written somewhere on it. So in the end it is pure fiction in my opinion to think that MMT is anywhere close to Sgt. Pepper.

Well I exist so it's not always pure fiction. Maybe it's more of a diluted fiction.

I never hear any Beatles songs on the radio. ;)

No just in my opinion it was pure fiction that MMT was better then Sgt. Pepper.
You still think MMT was better..............

And your point is?

You mentioned hearing Beatles songs on the radio in the OP. I have to ask what station this is.

Sgt Pepper's is a good album and I agree with your list of "forgettable" songs, but adding 'Within you, without you" to it.
About the 'overplayed' ones,well, it's not a coincidence that some of the best songs in every album are the ones that end up being played the most, because a song will seem overplayed to whoever listens to that station very often, but they expect any number of "new listeners" every day... also perhaps they were the most audience-requested songs of their time.
Back to the main subject, The Beatles best album is, imo, Abbey Road (from their second period -or after they overhauled their style-). From the first period, my favorite albums are Rubber Soul and Help.

Rubber Soul is great!

Personally, I think Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite is dopeee. I did devil sticks to that song in the 3rd grade talent show.

Don't let roscoe hear that. That's an almost ready-made occult conspiracy theory right here.

Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band - one of the most experimental albums, no doubt about it.

Frownland is gonna straight-up murder you.

Forgive him, Frown. He (or she) seems to be new here.

How many times have you heard them?

"Four shiit-kickers from Liverpool", their words not mine. They made more albums in a twelve month period than 99% of bands/artists today make in six years, they were the kind of big that the modern world cant even comprehend. Pressure! They masturbated into the mouth of pressure and laughed all the way through it.Still to this day they're the yard stick that all others are measured by, they've never been surpassed and its looking increasingly unlikely that they ever will be surpassed. They were the greatest songwriters and they made the greatest albums and that's just the way it is. If you don't agree, you're fecking wrong.

I don't have a favourite Fabs album, but for the sake of the thread i'll go with Abbey Road.