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Old 10-04-2017, 11:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Was digging through my old stored boxes of vinyl and found the below. From what I remember it’s the original press from 1973 taken directly from the sound board during their last show of the tour on July 26th 1972.
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I remember that bootleg label from the 70's. As I recall, they generally had above average sound for bootlegs from that time.

I thought that album cover might've been drawn by Gerald Scarfe, as it looks like his style, but it turns out it was drawn by an artist named William Stout.

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The most famous is probably The Rolling Stones' Welcome to New York in 1973 which was also the label's first printed deluxe cover.
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I remember that bootleg label from the 70's. As I recall, they generally had above average sound for bootlegs from that time.

I thought that album cover might've been drawn by Gerald Scarfe, as it looks like his style, but it turns out it was drawn by an artist named William Stout.

Cool find!
Yeah, I think this original orange press has wider response sound though. I have not played it in so many years so I cannot remember for certain. It was re-released by other bootleggers later on and even eventually on CD, but they were usually a bootleg copy of another bootleg copy so the sound quality kept getting worse and worse as time went on. People have uploaded those tracks of it here on the net and a few of the tracks on YouTube, but they sound horrible.

I’m going to rip this original press from a turntable into digital format and see how it comes out. I bought one of the Teac TN-400S models with the UBS output, but I don’t know how great that will sound yet.
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I did some searching during lunch and I found the below. The number on the one I have is in fact TMoQ RS-546-A/B. I just don't know if its the mono or stereo press. I seem to recall that it does have the full wide range response so I'm guessing stereo.

"The Madison Square Garden performance on July 26, 1972 is one of those fine moments in Rolling Stones live recorded history. Perhaps it's the fact that it was Jagger's 29th birthday that made such a difference. The energy and delivery of the performance is captured in an incredible "line" soundboard stereo recording. The "wide" stereo separation features Richards and keyboards on the left, Taylor on the right, drums and vocal in the middle, and horns split between the two channels. Interestingly enough it's the original vinyl discs that provide the basis for sound benchmarks of the CD recordings. The reason for this is that the tape source for the incredible vinyl LP's first issued by Trade Mark of Quality (TMoQ) out of greater Los Angeles county has never turned-up in tape trading circles. With this in mind one can only look for the finest sound reproduction on CD's made from the old LP's. The finest CD copy of the original "Welcome To New York" LP ends up on an unusual recording and not The Swingin' Pig as one might expect. The original LP's were issued by the TMoQ label in several variations with matrix numbers that identify original mono issues from later "wide" stereo issues. The running order of the songs also varies from the original RS-546 matrix number.

The earliest New York 1972 show releases in Mono:

Mfr.: First generation TMoQ

Matrix Number: RS-546-A/B

Vinyl: Orange"
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Was digging through my old stored boxes of vinyl and found the below. From what I remember it’s the original press from 1973 taken directly from the sound board during their last show of the tour on July 26th 1972.
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Jimmy Miller's produced Stones:

Beggars Banquet
Let it Bleed
Stickey Fingers
Exile on Main St.
Goats Head Soup

Is second only to Page's Zep production:

Zep II
Zep III
Zoso
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There is an audience recording wh. stops the instant the soundboard recording begins. As Tumbling Dice ends, Mick says, "Thank ya." The soundboard recording starts w/Mick saying, "We goanslowiddownjusalilbid."
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