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Frownland 01-02-2018 09:59 PM

Frownland's Top 20 Albums of 2017 (featuring 17 honourable mentions)
 
2018 is here. Something about fresh slates and all that inspiring **** or whatever. How about looking back at the year and stuff. If you know me this will probably seem like a pretty predictable list. Or maybe it won't be. I in no way listened to everything this year, so it is in no way a complete list, so recommendations and stringent criticism of my ranking are welcome. You do have my guarantee that every album on this list is excellent.

So many questions. Will my own albums be on the list? Is my list even finalized? Does anyone even give a ****? Is this the first entry?

Well it's the first entry, but I'm going to start posting about the albums tomorrow.

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The Hunt For Number One Bidders
Occulthawk: Elliott Sharp, Mary Halvorson, Marc Ribot - Err Guitar
Mindfulness: Shabazz Palaces - Quazarz versus the Jealous Machines
Micshazam: Diamanda Galas - All the Way

OccultHawk 01-03-2018 09:48 AM

If you haven’t listened to SAICOBAB stop the presses.


Exo 01-03-2018 11:26 AM

You should do what I do. Start posting albums and then stop for like 9 days.

Anteater 01-03-2018 03:36 PM

This will be an interesting list.

Frownland 01-03-2018 09:25 PM

I'm going to start with my honourable mentions. The honourable mentions will be done as a collection, so they're not in any particular order. The top 20 will be ranked, though.


Honourable Mention Number One
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Faust - Fresh Air

Faust is a force of nature barreling along at full capacity and when they stop, they'll keep echoing until music itself ends.

The album's opener is the strong point on this album as it's full of gorgeous drones on strings and electronics punctuated by spoken word and operatic singing and percussion that turns into that classic pulsing rock sound that they're known for. The tracks in between are great as well too. La Poulie has some really awesome percussion moments and Cloryphyl has badass percussion throughout. Lights Flicker gets especially punky with the screechy sax and female vocals full of immediacy and attitude over the driving drums and guitar. The closer takes on a darker and jazzier element with angrier male spoken word and trumpet. It touches on fusion-era Miles sound before breaking back into those Faustal rhythms and synth and cello melodies to close out the album.

Faust never waste any time with their music. Their songs are extended and full of improvisations, but it's never done without purpose or played without thoughtfulness. Faust owns their invention and boasts exciting new features. It's easy to forget about new material from bands like Faust on the strength of their old material, but any fan of Faust or krautrock in general needs to hear this album as it's the high quality music that you can expect from such a powerhouse.


Rating: Dank as ****

OccultHawk 01-03-2018 09:52 PM

Zappi is has been at it for coming up on 50 ****ing years and that’s a no bull**** seriously good high energy record.

Chula Vista 01-04-2018 12:20 AM

https://memyselfi5.bandcamp.com/album/me-myself-and-i

OccultHawk 01-04-2018 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1910940)

A little deep in the sauce tonight?

Chula Vista 01-04-2018 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1910943)
A little deep in the sauce tonight?

Yup. See "Your Day".

Frownland 01-04-2018 01:06 PM

Honourable Mention Number Two
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Alpha Mist - Antiphon

I want to start off by saying that I hate the term nu jazz. Here's a quote for those that don't know what nu jazz is "Nu Jazz is to (traditional) Jazz what punk or grunge was to Rock, of course. [...] The songs are the focus, not the individual prowess of the musicians. Nu Jazz instrumentation ranges from the traditional to the experimental, the melodies are fresh, and the rhythms new and alive. It makes Jazz fun again." Stupid as hell right? Jazz can only thrive when it has new blood and ideas, and these idiots think that just because jazz came to fruition before the advent of readily available electronic instruments that adding electronics demands a new subgenre.

Anyway, really ****ing nice jazz record here. Very soulful, melancholy, and chill with especially virtuosic keys, hip hop rhythms, and the occasional vocalist. It's not typically an album I'd return to but it's a great go to that hasn't worn on me since I've found it and it's a good album to throw on in mixed company. I don't really have much to say about it tbh but it's super solid.


OccultHawk 01-04-2018 01:29 PM

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these idiots think that just because jazz came to fruition before the advent of readily available electronic instruments that adding electronics demands a new subgenre.
Well, it sounds a little different, doesn’t it? I know the musicians often dislike being pigeonholed and I understand your point. The trouble starts when people start writing off entire subgenres. That’s why I’m happy that people with taste take the time to share what they learned wading through it all. I’m trying to do the same thing with my journal. I know, of course, others are too.

Frownland 01-04-2018 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1911082)
Well, it sounds a little different, doesn’t it? I know the musicians often dislike being pigeonholed and I understand your point. The trouble starts when people start writing off entire subgenres. That’s why I’m happy that people with taste take the time to share what they learned wading through it all. I’m trying to do the same thing with my journal. I know, of course, others are too.

Thing is that jazz has enough diversity to accommodate for different sounds without greatly changing what the genre is. You have to do more than incorporate electronic instruments for a genre that's built on freedom and new ideas, at least in my eyes.

I still dig a lot under the nu jazz umbrella, I just contest the idea of the genre.

OccultHawk 01-04-2018 01:38 PM

That’s cool.

Maajo 01-05-2018 08:14 AM

Isn't nu jazz just hip-hop with jazz samples? I always thought of DJ Krush, Nujabes, DJ Food, Herbaliser, etc as nu jazz, but maybe I've been using the term wrong or perhaps it's just a very loose genre. Anyways, that's dank as ****, I really quite like that.

Frownland 01-05-2018 11:22 AM

In this installment of "Frownland stalls until he finalizes his actual list"...
Songs I Love From Albums I Don't

J.I.D. - Never

J.I.D.'s on the come up and that dude can seriously spit. The Never Story has some good tracks and a couple of straight skippers, but none of them match the dark sound on this track. His voice kind of reminds me of someone, not sure who...


Kendrick Lamar - DNA

DAMN. is trash and so are you for thinking otherwise, but this track goes hard as ****. You know, I probably wouldn't be so hard on DAMN. if it didn't kick off with a dick tease like this track. Don't set the stage for something great and lead into a whimper. Humble's aight but it isn't enough to make up for the rest.

Maajo 01-05-2018 11:49 AM

DNA. isn't even the best track on the album. It might be one of the two big commercial bangers, but he did better on the rest of the album.

OccultHawk 01-05-2018 11:51 AM

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His voice kind of reminds me of someone, not sure who..
lil boosie?

Frownland 01-05-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1911269)
DNA. isn't even the best track on the album. It might be one of the two big commercial bangers, but he did better on the rest of the album.

I covered this already.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1911265)
trash and so are you


OccultHawk 01-05-2018 11:58 AM

That track “Never” is really some fantastic next level **** and that video is crazy good btw

Maajo 01-05-2018 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1911271)
I covered this already.

I'm sorry, I don't take bull**** opinions seriously. Can you try again, only with the correct opinion - something like "DAMN. was sick, I'm growing into it because I have some taste in music and I don't know why I've spent so much time with my head completely lodged up my own ass" would be perfectly acceptable. Thanks.

Frownland 01-05-2018 12:06 PM

I think you missed the concept of that segment.

Machine 01-05-2018 02:27 PM

If I don't have an honorable mention then I will riot

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 01-05-2018 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1911275)
I'm sorry, I don't take bull**** opinions seriously. Can you try again, only with the correct opinion - something like "DAMN. was sick, I'm growing into it because I have some taste in music and I don't know why I've spent so much time with my head completely lodged up my own ass" would be perfectly acceptable. Thanks.

even as a kendrick fanboy i can assure you that DAMN. was indeed nothing special

if it somebody else released it i reckon it would go down as a run of the mill mainstream hip hop project, but since it was kendrick everyone has a hard on for it.

Frownland 01-05-2018 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1911291)
If I don't have an honorable mention then I will riot

Sorry, honourable mentions only.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1911295)
even as a kendrick fanboy i can assure you that DAMN. was indeed nothing special

if it somebody else released it i reckon it would go down as a run of the mill mainstream hip hop project, but since it was kendrick everyone has a hard on for it.

I appreciate that he's willing to branch out like that with his foray into more soulful territory, but his soul is boring and cringey. Keep it in your pants or give us bangers, K-Dot.

Maajo 01-05-2018 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1911295)
even as a kendrick fanboy i can assure you that DAMN. was indeed nothing special

if it somebody else released it i reckon it would go down as a run of the mill mainstream hip hop project, but since it was kendrick everyone has a hard on for it.

As someone who doesn't identify as a Kendrick fanboy, I can assure you that everything you just said is wrong. Lol.

Frownland 01-05-2018 05:20 PM

It's 2 to 1, I guess you just have bad taste, holmes.

Maajo 01-05-2018 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1911367)
It's 2 to 1, I guess you just have bad taste, holmes.

Yeah, but the 2 in question don't know what good music is, so I definitely do got taste, bruh.

Frownland 01-05-2018 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1911368)
Yeah, but the 2 in question don't know what good music is, so I definitely do got taste, bruh.

Solid case.

Exo 01-05-2018 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1911368)
Yeah, but the 2 in question don't know what good music is, so I definitely do got taste, bruh.

I don't think DAMN. is that great either man. Nobody dislikes my taste.

Maajo 01-05-2018 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1911372)
Solid case.

Right back at ya.

Maajo 01-05-2018 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1911373)
I don't think DAMN. is that great either man. Nobody dislikes my taste.

Til now.

Exo 01-05-2018 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1911375)
Til now.

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We get it. You like a record. Hooray.

Maajo 01-05-2018 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1911376)
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We get it. You like a record. Hooray.

Yep, and you don't.

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Frownland 01-05-2018 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1911373)
I don't think DAMN. is that great either man. Nobody dislikes my taste.

I think TPAB made him tired and he just wants to find out the minimum amount of effort needed to be able to sell a record.

Frownland 01-05-2018 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1911377)
Yep, and you don't.

If you backed up your opinion on it beyond "I like it" then maybe we wouldn't treat you like a ****boi for "defending" it.

Maajo 01-05-2018 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1911381)
If you backed up your opinion on it beyond "I like it" then maybe we wouldn't treat you like a ****boi for it.

Lol I'm just keeping it on your level, ****boi.

Frownland 01-05-2018 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1911382)
Lol I'm just keeping it on your level, ****boi.

Then actually talk about the record or bring something to the conversation like I did instead of your childish "nuh uh"s.

Maajo 01-05-2018 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1911384)
Then actually talk about the record or bring something to the conversation like I did instead of your childish "nuh uh"s.

But you didn't I don't think aside from briefly stating that you disliked the soulful side of the record. Aside from that one comment, you've done the same exact thing that you're now criticizing against. You actually do that a lot, which leads me to believe you don't have much self awareness, so let me be the first to help you out. When you engage in talking **** like you have, people are generally going to snap back on the same level without regard to the discussion that you now seem to be interested in having.

I've made my piece about why I think you're underrating the record, and your responses weren't much better than what we're seeing right now. Otherwise, I'll save my thoughtful responses for someone who seems more ready to actually deal in such things. Thank you for your concern though.

Frownland 01-05-2018 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1911388)
But you didn't I don't think aside from briefly stating that you disliked the soulful side of the record. Aside from that one comment, you've done the same exact thing that you're now criticizing against. You actually do that a lot, which leads me to believe you don't have much self awareness, so let me be the first to help you out. When you engage in talking **** like you have, people are generally going to snap back on the same level without regard to the discussion that you now seem to be interested in having.

That is a huge reason for me not getting into the album and I only left it at that one comment because nobody else took me up on it. It goes both ways, you know.

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I've made my piece about why I think you're underrating the record, and your responses weren't much better than what we're seeing right now.
I didn't respond in the Kendrick thread because I was satisfied with your answer to my question even though the reasons you cited were identical to the reasons I dislike the album.

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Otherwise, I'll save my thoughtful responses for someone who seems more ready to actually deal in such things. Thank you for your concern though.
Then don't comment at all or at least avoid being so damn repetitive with it.

Exo 01-05-2018 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1911388)
Otherwise, I'll save my thoughtful responses for someone who seems more ready to actually deal in such things. Thank you for your concern though.

I'd like to hear why you like the record.


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