well, like i said before i wasnt directly involved with hoffas ban so I cant really say too much about it..what i will say is that a permanent ban as a first strike is pretty harsh in my opinion (edit: cuz i just read hookers saying it wasnt a perm so it doesnt apply) , unless they are here just to cause trouble. I would of given a week or two for the spam and a warning about creating new accounts..if they ignore the warning, and I catch them with a new account, then I will have their asses IP banned and chances are it wont be lifted. not by me anyways, and the mods have a pretty good understanding not to lift other mods bans. so if you or anyone else does happend to get banned at some point in time i wouldnt recommend ignoring a mod, instead if you think the ban was unjust or too extreme email one of us and it will get looked at although i cant promise you the outcome will change.

Ok so, pretty much me and fenix are on the same page.
I undersatnd. Hoffa igorned the ban, and different mods would have handled it differently, but since it was hookers ban, the desion was his, and though I don't understand why, he allowwed the ban to be lifted.

exactly.

Why are you making such a big deal about this? I'm not a mod anymore, you got your wish. She is doing nothing wrong. Hating someone isn't a good enough reason to ban someone.

Dude, I thought this was over. It really should be. I don't have any problem with your descions. I just don't know why you would lift her ban. Thats all. It doesn't have to go on.

EDIT: And you know good and well that that wasn't "my wish". I did not send that PM

im guessing it has more to do with Golden String being banned (?)

I don't know much about the GS situation, but I have to admit, that Vanilla "skank noob" avatar he had was the funniest thing I've ever seen on this forum!

Na man. GS should have been banned. And so should madeinNY since they commited the same crime. But it is all at the banning mods discretion

You certainly cracked the case Columbo.

ZOINKS SCOOB!
Well hookers, you would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for us pesky kids!