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FaSho 10-27-2008 05:28 PM

I agree about the profiles thing come to think about it.

Comus 10-28-2008 08:58 PM

Led Zeppelin rocks.



On Topic: I'd like to have more control over my own journal, and perhaps find a way to further promote such activities within the forum.

right-track 10-29-2008 01:07 AM

You have total control of your journal. You can request any post made to be deleted if you wish.

The only control you don't have is immediate post approval.
Unless that's what your saying?

Comus 10-31-2008 11:22 PM

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

Zarko 11-01-2008 04:07 AM

lol yeah that would be nice but nigh impossible I would think... Then you have to cahnge everyone's permissions etc and I don't believe its possible for individual threads...

One ultimate 'favourites in list form' thread would be okay... Less discussion in them then probably though...

simplephysics 11-01-2008 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Zarko (Post 538246)
One ultimate 'favourites in list form' thread would be okay... Less discussion in them then probably though...

I tried. :( Crashed and burn, obviously though.

Top 5's

TheBig3 11-01-2008 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Comus (Post 538231)
Yes, that's what I'm saying.

Whats the possibility (in trying to achieve this) of making these folks "sub-mods" for their journal the same way Boo Boo was for the prog forum...or is that a level of security that allows them power universally?

Zarko 11-01-2008 09:11 AM

Yeah I don't think a person can be given permissions over single threads... This is only from experience as admin on another vBulletin forum... Think it can only be power over single forums...

WendyCal 11-01-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 488916)
I'd like to see more people (who can actually write) write reviews of current albums.

I'm not sure what cliques people are talking about (especially since those complains seem to be coming from people who've been here a total of a few days).

Having a member proof-read and, perhaps, edit for grammar, would take care of the 'guessing-what-they-meant' thing, as well as classing-up the site. Good idea! :thumb:

i would also like to second (or thrid, whatever number you're up to) the putting of the Intro Stuff at the top of the forums list. It really would be better for newbies.

Also, if what y'all are suggesting is not letting anyone who admits to being here to learn to not post for a certain amount of time, that would be fine, but you'd need to have another member Mentor them.

And i was sort of shocked to see that this had been addressed, what? 4 months before i appeared on the scene? , the instant flaming, insults and down-right attacks by some members. If we, as n00bs, should refrain from posting irrevelant threads, then y'all should certainly show enough restraint to keep yourselves from posting some ugly comment, just for the sake of, well, what? Talk about, "What's the Point?"...

Yeah, yeah.

Just saying.

jackhammer 11-01-2008 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WendyCal (Post 538425)
Having a member proof-read and, perhaps, edit for grammar, would take care of the 'guessing-what-they-meant' thing, as well as classing-up the site. Good idea! :thumb:

We are all voluntary and have live's outside of MB and I; for one, can think of better things to do than to proof read posts when most browsers have spell checks etc built in.

lucifer_sam 11-01-2008 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 536343)
I love everyone but wish we had more conversation.

As assholish as this may sound, I have no desire to see MusicBanter evolve into that. We have an even mix of personality and knowledge. There is consistently strong content (from most members) and I don't want it to dissolve into a gigantic orgy like so many other music forums.

I tried Sputnik for about three minutes and realized how bad that place sucks. Nowhere in the entire fucking forum did people actually discuss music. It was just what that dude described: a bunch of pricks patting each other on the back and a few odd one-word album reviews.

I love MusicBanter. I don't want it to change. :(

Comus 11-02-2008 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 538284)
Whats the possibility (in trying to achieve this) of making these folks "sub-mods" for their journal the same way Boo Boo was for the prog forum...or is that a level of security that allows them power universally?

I just want post-approval out of the window, and let moderation occur afterwards at the request of the journal members.

FaSho 11-02-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 538502)
I kind of wish we had a reference system to give one-ups to each other (as long as people didn't abuse it like it was a popularity contest).

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Akira 11-02-2008 10:13 AM

Maybe like a digg or bury for each post?

Astronomer 11-02-2008 05:02 PM

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I kind of wish we had a reference system to give one-ups to each other (as long as people didn't abuse it like it was a popularity contest).
Being a newbie here I'm pretty sure it would turn into a popularity contest: as on many forums, I've found that all the members who know each other and have been here for a while tend to stick together and be a little skeptical of posts by members who they don't know or who are new. Also, people might give one-ups to people for their taste in music or opinion rather than post quality.

TheBig3 11-04-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 538487)
As assholish as this may sound, I have no desire to see MusicBanter evolve into that. We have an even mix of personality and knowledge. There is consistently strong content (from most members) and I don't want it to dissolve into a gigantic orgy like so many other music forums.

I tried Sputnik for about three minutes and realized how bad that place sucks. Nowhere in the entire fucking forum did people actually discuss music. It was just what that dude described: a bunch of pricks patting each other on the back and a few odd one-word album reviews.

I love MusicBanter. I don't want it to change. :(

Conversation about what though, JH?

Sam does have a point. MB is one of the best forums I've seen around, and I don't mean for music. We've worked pretty hard to make this place worth visiting and not becoming a big billboard.

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Originally Posted by Comus (Post 538734)
I just want post-approval out of the window, and let moderation occur afterwards at the request of the journal members.

mmmmm, no. **** digresses into blather all too often. its easier to prevent than get rid of. Like most things.

miskit 11-04-2008 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 488706)
This is a preference based ideal though. Most new members are surreptitiously tested to ascertain their musical knowledge. It does indeed smack of elitism but we average 20 new posters a day and we are lucky if less than one stays the course.

We could be more welcoming I admit and could give newbies a longer period of grace.

One other point of note, we can usually separate the wheat from the chaff. If you have a musical opinion and it is reasoned well, we will notice it. So don't get scared off too easily!

i am pretty much new here, joined a while back but dont post everyday but read through the posts a lot. the whole reason i joined was because i AM NOT an expert or have the musical knowledge a few here do. but that is the reason i joined to broaden my horizons so to speak... (have always loved music almost made a career of it i love it so much)

and well not exactly the most welcoming place not exaclty the most helpful, though some are... and i am not a ****ing whiner or confrontational person like some here, but you asked i told...

and here we go.....

Akira 11-04-2008 02:07 PM

You don't need to have brilliant musical knowledge to post here. The posts I enjoy reading the most are the ones were people talk passionately about what they love.

They only time you really need knowledge here is when you make up some bs statement that's been said a thousand times, and then you will get confronted to back up what you said.

Love of music>knowledge of music

Astronomer 11-04-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ToeAndno (Post 540271)
Love of music>knowledge of music

QFTW... totally agreed.

FaSho 11-04-2008 03:08 PM

I think it would be cool if we had a sub-forum in the MB Reader for live shows. Not just reviews of bands shows, but things like education threads on popular tours and such.

Astronomer 11-04-2008 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FaSho (Post 540308)
I think it would be cool if we had a sub-forum in the MB Reader for live shows. Not just reviews of bands shows, but things like education threads on popular tours and such.

That is a really great idea! That's the one thing I've been missing out on discussing here 'cause I love going to live shows. Hence why I created a members journal about it.

Double X 11-04-2008 03:50 PM

The 'Talk Instruments' section is pretty much where a lot of the discussion about your own band is. Would it be neater and easier if we had a thread of general discussion/questions about your own amateur band, without promotion? Also if we could make a non-promotion discussion forum on ways to work with your band, good music to start off with, but not actually promoting your band because there is a big chance we get some gay spammers. I know it's walking a thin line back to the old promotion forums which was a failure, but it would make a lot of amateur musicianship discussion a lot easier to find than searching through 3 different sections for help.

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-04-2008 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Double X (Post 540352)
The 'Talk Instruments' section is pretty much where a lot of the discussion about your own band is. Would it be neater and easier if we had a thread of general discussion/questions about your own amateur band, without promotion? Also if we could make a non-promotion discussion forum on ways to work with your band, good music to start off with, but not actually promoting your band because there is a big chance we get some gay spammers. I know it's walking a thin line back to the old promotion forums which was a failure, but it would make a lot of amateur musicianship discussion a lot easier to find than searching through 3 different sections for help.

The original plan was to have Talk Instruments & Stereo & Production Equipment forums merged to basically incorperate all that sort of thing in one forum.

But then Yac told us that merging forums together isn't possible without a load of complications so the idea was dropped.

FaSho 11-10-2008 08:16 PM

I'd also like to see more than someone's last 1000 posts if possible.

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-10-2008 08:19 PM

It was only 100 till I asked for it to be raised.

FaSho 11-10-2008 08:21 PM

Ahh so it CAN be raised then?

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-10-2008 08:22 PM

Don't hold your breath. It's only just been raised to that

About 2 years after I first asked.

Close_Smile 11-12-2008 04:14 PM

Please, PLEASE, limit the size of avatars and signatures, because the different enormous or tiny avatars deform the website.

dac 11-18-2008 09:41 PM

It looks fine on my 17 inch display.

Son of JayJamJah 11-18-2008 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Close_Smile (Post 544276)
Please, PLEASE, limit the size of avatars and signatures, because the different enormous or tiny avatars deform the website.

I hate all restriction, but this would be an aesthetically pleasing implementation.

Astronomer 11-18-2008 09:44 PM

I can't remember if I or anyone else has suggested this before (probably, so I really do apologise) but it would be cool to have a place to talk about your musical endeavors as a band and get advice from other people who are in other bands. Like on how to promote, how to produce an EP, band practices, band names, etc. Of course advertising your band could be banned, but just a place to talk about aforementioned stuff.

FireInCairo 11-18-2008 09:44 PM

I think an improvement could be made with regards to members journals, to remove the moderators formality of approval before posting. It would speed up the process and eliminate a needless task for the mods.

Son of JayJamJah 11-18-2008 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FireInCairo (Post 547831)
I think an improvement could be made with regards to members journals, to remove the moderators formality of approval before posting. It would speed up the process and eliminate a needless task for the mods.

I think that if a member has an established reputation this should be utilized. I do like the concept of regulating feedback in the MB Reader section however.

Astronomer 11-18-2008 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FireInCairo (Post 547831)
I think an improvement could be made with regards to members journals, to remove the moderators formality of approval before posting. It would speed up the process and eliminate a needless task for the mods.

Agreed. But if someone was posting **** in your journal that you weren't happy with, you could get a mod to remove it. Or something.

FireInCairo 11-18-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah (Post 547835)
I think that if a member has an established reputation this should be utilized. I do like the concept of regulating feedback in the MB Reader section however.

I agree

guitargirl_93 11-25-2008 12:30 PM

I know this topic was long dragged on, but...I'm a n00b. I've been here for about 3 months and I'm still kinda "afraid" to post, lol. I'm cautious of posting stuff about my favorite bands, and posting about stuff I find funny..cos I don't wanna be shot down as I've seen happen in my lurking. Cos I'm 15, and I'm sure most people could just twist me up into a little ball and throw me against the wall like THAT. ;P I'm just now starting to post more, so I'm getting the hang of it. I just felt uncomfortable for a while there.

FaSho 11-25-2008 12:50 PM

I think anyone who can make it past 50 posts without getting chewed up is MB material.

Piss Me Off 11-26-2008 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by guitargirl_93 (Post 551666)
I know this topic was long dragged on, but...I'm a n00b. I've been here for about 3 months and I'm still kinda "afraid" to post, lol. I'm cautious of posting stuff about my favorite bands, and posting about stuff I find funny..cos I don't wanna be shot down as I've seen happen in my lurking. Cos I'm 15, and I'm sure most people could just twist me up into a little ball and throw me against the wall like THAT. ;P I'm just now starting to post more, so I'm getting the hang of it. I just felt uncomfortable for a while there.

Just as long as you use search and discuss stuff politely then there should be no reason for you to feel uncomfortable. Some of our best posters are young so age really doesn't matter.
Just remember if you think anyones being unfair the mods are here for a reason :)

TheBig3 11-26-2008 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FaSho (Post 551687)
I think anyone who can make it past 50 posts without getting chewed up is MB material.

I think if they can make it past 50 while getting chewed up is a feat. Some of these guys are ruthless.

This exempts obvious attention whores who intend to get chewed up as to make up for the lack of hugs at a young age.

Double X 11-26-2008 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitargirl_93 (Post 551666)
I know this topic was long dragged on, but...I'm a n00b. I've been here for about 3 months and I'm still kinda "afraid" to post, lol. I'm cautious of posting stuff about my favorite bands, and posting about stuff I find funny..cos I don't wanna be shot down as I've seen happen in my lurking. Cos I'm 15, and I'm sure most people could just twist me up into a little ball and throw me against the wall like THAT. ;P I'm just now starting to post more, so I'm getting the hang of it. I just felt uncomfortable for a while there.

Trust me there are people who listen to weirder stuff then you and do not get shot down...


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