Music Banter

Music Banter (https://www.musicbanter.com/)
-   Announcements, Suggestions, & Feedback (https://www.musicbanter.com/announcements-suggestions-feedback/)
-   -   Introductory Threads? (https://www.musicbanter.com/announcements-suggestions-feedback/32235-introductory-threads.html)

lucifer_sam 08-13-2008 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 506648)
Anyone else wanna do punk with me? I don't want to do it all by myself.

Also, how do you want these laid out? Should we have a set of reccommendations/key albums for each subgenre/scene?

I was thinking eight to ten recommendations for "must-haves" and then you can have an opportunity to divide it into MAJOR subgenres, with about three to five recommendations for each, all at personal discrepancy. Compilations are at your choice, too.

The key is to try NOT to overload the thread with recommendations or information, otherwise first-time users will shy away from utilizing these threads. That, and I don't want these to become carbon copies of the education threads.

lucifer_sam 08-13-2008 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayJamJah (Post 506659)
I like the idea, I'll help with any of the genres let me know what you need Lucifer Sam.

Soul, maybe? You always seemed pretty knowledgable there and you can thread some of your experience with Van Morrison into it.

Son of JayJamJah 08-13-2008 08:49 PM

Sure. Classic Rock is another I could help with the majority of my albums fall under that heading and I feel like a have a grasp on the sub genres of that category more so then any other.

lucifer_sam 08-13-2008 09:15 PM

Awesome. Only a few genres left, but they're the ones that are gonna be most difficult to fill.

I don't think we're ever going to find anyone to do Classical or Country/Folk because of the lack of interest. But I was hoping someone could take Electronica, what with all the interest in Krautrock across the board. I would take Jazz, but I don't listen to anything before 1940 or later than 1980.

Piss Me Off 08-14-2008 02:12 AM

Ethans the man for folk, isn't he?

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 08-14-2008 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 506648)
Also, how do you want these laid out? Should we have a set of reccommendations/key albums for each subgenre/scene?

well you don't need to do hardcore or emo (can say "see hardcore/emo thread" or something)

i can handle grindcore as well unless whoevers doing rock/metal wants to do grindcore under metal

Kevorkian Logic 08-14-2008 07:07 AM

I have 12 years of classical training, so I suppose I could do classical, but if I do classical and cohort with proggyman with rap, I need to not do pop. Is that ok?

swim 08-14-2008 07:15 AM

I can handle the American Folk aspect of Country & Folk while Ethan knows a decent lot of British stuff and he'd probably love to do pop.

lucifer_sam 08-14-2008 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevorkian Logic (Post 506746)
I have 12 years of classical training, so I suppose I could do classical, but if I do classical and cohort with proggyman with rap, I need to not do pop. Is that ok?

It's your choice.

Some other tool's gonna have to take over pop then, which should be interesting/very difficult.

jackhammer 08-14-2008 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAPTAIN CAVEMAN (Post 506733)
well you don't need to do hardcore or emo (can say "see hardcore/emo thread" or something)

i can handle grindcore as well unless whoevers doing rock/metal wants to do grindcore under metal

I'm doing metal but Grindcore can go to you. If you don't mention the precusrors though there is trouble. ;)

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 08-14-2008 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 506887)
I'm doing metal but Grindcore can go to you. If you don't mention the precusrors though there is trouble. ;)

that's the thing, i'm not so good with the early stuff

Kevorkian Logic 08-14-2008 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 506787)
It's your choice.

Some other tool's gonna have to take over pop then, which should be interesting/very difficult.

I don't particularly like your attitude. Do pop and classical yourself if your going to be an ass about it.

lucifer_sam 08-14-2008 09:40 PM

Um...okay. I think you misunderstood me, but I'll take your name off if that's what you'd like.

RoemerMW 08-15-2008 12:15 AM

I know it's a small category, and I'm not sure where it would fit, but I could write a good introductory thread for film scores and soundtracks. I could cover everything from early silent film scores, musicals/show tunes, modern day soundtracks, and even videogame music. All the categories here are actual categories in the music forums, so I guess if I did one it could go in the Soundtrack sub-section of the Media section in the forums. If anyone else thinks it would be worth it for me to do one, I'd be glad to.

Seltzer 08-15-2008 12:18 AM

I can do jazz and help out with prog/classical if need be. But I'm very very busy at the moment... and even when I do get onto forum stuff, I've got another forum project plus my King Crimson thread.

Ghostrider 08-15-2008 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 506681)
Awesome. Only a few genres left, but they're the ones that are gonna be most difficult to fill.

I don't think we're ever going to find anyone to do Classical or Country/Folk because of the lack of interest.

Classical wouldn't be that difficult to do lucifer_sam,,,it has made a remarkable comeback in recent years due to the downloading phenomenon, people that only wanted certain sections of their favorite pieces can now just take them instead of a complete work. And the CD versions are so much better than the albums simply because of the recording quality, no more pops, clicks etc. to interfere with the quiet passages. I still have some priceless vinyl copies, but have replaced my whole library with CD versions now.

The sheer scale of the classical period is daunting at first, but you could simply start with Bach as the giant of the Baroque period, then move into the prime time interval with the giants of the field, Mozart, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky etc. and finish with Shostakovich/Stravinsky/Rachmaninoff. Then UberFilmBuff could add the modern composers whose music was predominantly used in films and that brings us right up to date. Just a thought, this introduction thread is a very good idea.:thumb:

Of course having Seltzer involved in this would add the gravitas necessary to get more people to actually check it out.

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-15-2008 10:12 AM

I'll be flat out busy from monday so i'll not be getting involved but if anyone wants any pointers or some gaps filled feel free to PM me.
I think most people have some idea of where my knowledge is.

Alfred 08-15-2008 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAPTAIN CAVEMAN (Post 506733)
well you don't need to do hardcore or emo (can say "see hardcore/emo thread" or something)

i can handle grindcore as well unless whoevers doing rock/metal wants to do grindcore under metal

Will do.

I'd like it if someone could possibly help with hardcore punk, unless it would be fine if I just included the big ones:

Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
Black Flag - Damaged
Bad Brains - Bad Brains
Minor Threat - First Two 7"s on a 12"
Circle Jerks - Group Sex

?

RoemerMW 08-15-2008 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquatch (Post 507024)
Then UberFilmBuff could add the modern composers whose music was predominantly used in films and that brings us right up to date. Just a thought, this introduction thread is a very good idea.

Ok, I have a basic knowledge of modern composers beyond the film scores (Steve Reich, most of Philip Glass's work, etc.)

jackhammer 08-15-2008 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 507054)
Will do.

I'd like it if someone could possibly help with hardcore punk, unless it would be fine if I just included the big ones:

Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
Black Flag - Damaged
Bad Brains - Bad Brains
Minor Threat - First Two 7"s on a 12"
Circle Jerks - Group Sex

?

You forgot the English ones numbnuts ;)

G.B.H-CITY BABY ATTACKED BY RATS
DISCHARGE-SEE NOTHING, HEAR NOTHING, SAY NOTHING
BROKEN BONES-BONECRUSHER
CONFLICT-THE UNGOVERNABLE FORCE

jackhammer 08-15-2008 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAPTAIN CAVEMAN (Post 506888)
that's the thing, i'm not so good with the early stuff

Thrash and Grindcore

Alfred 08-15-2008 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 507071)
You forgot the English ones numbnuts ;)

G.B.H-CITY BABY ATTACKED BY RATS
DISCHARGE-SEE NOTHING, HEAR NOTHING, SAY NOTHING
BROKEN BONES-BONECRUSHER
CONFLICT-THE UNGOVERNABLE FORCE

Which of these is the most important, in your opinion?

And which album should I remove to make room for it? I'm thinking Circle Jerks.

lucifer_sam 08-15-2008 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquatch (Post 507024)
Classical wouldn't be that difficult to do lucifer_sam,,,it has made a remarkable comeback in recent years due to the downloading phenomenon, people that only wanted certain sections of their favorite pieces can now just take them instead of a complete work. And the CD versions are so much better than the albums simply because of the recording quality, no more pops, clicks etc. to interfere with the quiet passages. I still have some priceless vinyl copies, but have replaced my whole library with CD versions now.

The sheer scale of the classical period is daunting at first, but you could simply start with Bach as the giant of the Baroque period, then move into the prime time interval with the giants of the field, Mozart, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky etc. and finish with Shostakovich/Stravinsky/Rachmaninoff. Then UberFilmBuff could add the modern composers whose music was predominantly used in films and that brings us right up to date. Just a thought, this introduction thread is a very good idea.:thumb:

Of course having Seltzer involved in this would add the gravitas necessary to get more people to actually check it out.

If you'd like to lend your voice, just say the word. ;)

lucifer_sam 08-15-2008 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 507054)
Will do.

I'd like it if someone could possibly help with hardcore punk, unless it would be fine if I just included the big ones:

Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
Black Flag - Damaged
Bad Brains - Bad Brains
Minor Threat - First Two 7"s on a 12"
Circle Jerks - Group Sex

?

Don't forget Suicidal Tendencies' debut album. Probably the best-selling hardcore punk album to date.

Ghostrider 08-17-2008 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 507094)
If you'd like to lend your voice, just say the word. ;)

What is the timetable involved Lucifer,,,when would we have to have our part completed? I'm only asking because I'm really busy with work and before I commit to your intro threads I want to be sure I could get everything done. Oh and I'm not sure if Seltzer or Kevorkian Logic both declined to do classical or not, let me know, I don't want to step on anybodies toes.;)

Hello UberFilmBuff, sounds like a good idea to me, I know the older composers very well, but the new guys other than John Williams etc., are a mystery to me, any help with them would be appreciated.:)

Son of JayJamJah 08-17-2008 09:08 AM

^ You're also the type who doesn't read threads before they post in them.

simplephysics 08-17-2008 09:58 AM

Eek, Whoever is doing the Indie/Alternative one, I could throw in some things if it's needed.

jackhammer 08-17-2008 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 507075)
Which of these is the most important, in your opinion?

And which album should I remove to make room for it? I'm thinking Circle Jerks.

All of them ;) Go for Discharge. I prefer G.B.H but Discharge is more relavent. I would remove Circle Jerks.

lucifer_sam 08-17-2008 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquatch (Post 507619)
What is the timetable involved Lucifer,,,when would we have to have our part completed? I'm only asking because I'm really busy with work and before I commit to your intro threads I want to be sure I could get everything done. Oh and I'm not sure if Seltzer or Kevorkian Logic both declined to do classical or not, let me know, I don't want to step on anybodies toes.;)

Hello UberFilmBuff, sounds like a good idea to me, I know the older composers very well, but the new guys other than John Williams etc., are a mystery to me, any help with them would be appreciated.:)

Kevorkian Logic requested I remove her name. You can collaborate with Seltzer if you'd like - that would be awesome, as classical is a VERY large genre with many different movements. I'm sure there's plenty of work. ;)

Son of JayJamJah 08-17-2008 07:12 PM

Lucy, I think someone else should do the funk portion of my second intro. I have a few things put together for Classic Rock, but what should my final template look like?

lucifer_sam 08-17-2008 07:40 PM

I haven't gotten to making the template yet. It will be on full display August 21.

And that's completely fine, I'll just amend that right now.

littleknowitall 08-18-2008 08:18 AM

JayJamJah Wants any help with the Soul and Funk Introductory thread, I noticed he was just doing soul. And not that I'm the most knowledgable about any genre really if I was going to stab at any genre there It would be funk.

Son of JayJamJah 08-18-2008 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littleknowitall (Post 508032)
JayJamJah Wants any help with the Soul and Funk Introductory thread, I noticed he was just doing soul. And not that I'm the most knowledgable about any genre really if I was going to stab at any genre there It would be funk.

The do it please, the more the merrier and I for sure need help. I think Urban could give some help with Funk too.

littleknowitall 08-18-2008 08:38 AM

He's quite possibly a better candidate, Have we got a template to work with for these things?

Son of JayJamJah 08-18-2008 09:20 AM

By the weekend Lucifer Sam will get us the template. I'd say do some webbing or brain storming now, of albums, artists and tid-bits of info.

ProggyMan 08-18-2008 09:24 AM

So I'm still open to help with Hip Hop/Rap if anyone's interested.

Alfred 08-18-2008 10:46 AM

Thanks for the help Lucifer and Jackhammer. :)

sleepy jack 08-21-2008 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 508045)
So I'm still open to help with Hip Hop/Rap if anyone's interested.

But you hardly know anything.

lucifer_sam 08-21-2008 04:12 PM

Alright, the moment some of you've been waiting for...
 
This will be the official template for any introductory thread. We need them as clean and orderly as possible to attract visitors. Please note that the thread title should be "The [Genre] Introductory Thread". You can quote my post and fill in where necessary to make it easier. Please understand that if you are covering more than one MAJOR genre (i.e. Rock & Metal), you can make an introductory thread for each, but leave the sub-genres within the thread. Everything within brackets should be deleted or deleted and substituted using the instructions shown.

The deadline for submission is October 1, 2008 (giving you a month and some change to create, edit, and change the thread as desired).

----------------------------------------------------------------

The [Genre] Introductory Thread


[Insert medium-sized (250 to 350 square pixels) image here of the album cover you feel best represents the genre.]

[Brief introduction: this is a small section where you can introduce the genre and explained how it came into being, but you should be concise and succinct. One to two paragraphs should be sufficient to introduce a genre and explain what the music sounds like. We don't want to saturate the introductory threads with words so that newbies don't shy away from using them.]

The Must-Haves: [Here follows a list of eight to ten albums which you feel best represent the genre as a whole.]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Sub-Genre] [An opportunity to provide some notable sub-genres (but please, don't take it further than a sub-genre; we don't want to hear about blackened forest pixie metal). Use common sense! Three to five albums should suffice.]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]

[Sub-Genre 2]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]

[Sub-Genre 3...]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]
[Artist] - [Album]
Compilations: [Here you can exercise even more control by creating a playlist of eight to ten songs. You can archive them using WinZip and upload them using Megaupload, Mediafire or similar sites. If you want to, you can make multiple compilations or compilations for each sub-genre (though that would be a lot of work).]
  1. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
  2. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
  3. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
  4. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
  5. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
  6. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
  7. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
  8. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
[link]
  1. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
  2. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
  3. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
  4. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
  5. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
  6. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
  7. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
  8. [Artist] - "[Song]" ([Album])
[link]

Piss Me Off 08-21-2008 04:49 PM

Good work man! Do we have anyone for rock yet, because i could probably help out there.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:20 PM.


© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.