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Frumious B 08-24-2010 07:15 PM

I know that a lot of forums have profanity filters and I respect that. However, I attempted to mention Herbie Hanc.o.c.k. in a thread earlier and your filters asterisked out the last four letters of his name. This is definitely not hate mail, just something to look at.

Edit: Oops, this is the wrong thread for my comment. Sorry.

Freebase Dali 08-24-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Frumious B (Post 922516)
I know that a lot of forums have profanity filters and I respect that. However, I attempted to mention Herbie Hanc.o.c.k. in a thread earlier and your filters asterisked out the last four letters of his name. This is definitely not hate mail, just something to look at.

Edit: Oops, this is the wrong thread for my comment. Sorry.

I don't know if you considered this fact, but word filters can't tell if you "mean" something offensively or not. It's simply a coded instruction to block a letter combination regardless of whether it's in a larger word or not. I'm sorry, but we can't teach software how to interpret intentions, nor can we change the rules regarding what's blocked.

TheCunningStunt 08-24-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 922547)
I don't know if you considered this fact, but word filters can't tell if you "mean" something offensively or not. It's simply a coded instruction to block a letter combination regardless of whether it's in a larger word or not. I'm sorry, but we can't teach software how to interpret intentions, nor can we change the rules regarding what's blocked.

Wasn't 'gay' unblocked?

mr dave 08-25-2010 02:13 AM

i just make Herbie Hanc0ck super leet when i talk about him.

Frumious B 08-25-2010 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 922637)
i just make Herbie Hanc0ck super leet when i talk about him.

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 922547)
I don't know if you considered this fact, but word filters can't tell if you "mean" something offensively or not. It's simply a coded instruction to block a letter combination regardless of whether it's in a larger word or not. I'm sorry, but we can't teach software how to interpret intentions, nor can we change the rules regarding what's blocked.

It's just that the name of the forum is Music Banter. It seems to me that you shouldn't have to resort to chicanery to type the name of a fairly famous and high profile jazz musician. I was on a baseball forum once where I couldn't type the name of the Atlanta Braves' manager without it being asterisked out. How stupid is that?

I know it's not the way for the new guy to make a good first impression, but it's asinine. Why should legitimate music discussion be held hostage to hangups over "Our Precious Moral Values TM"?

NumberNineDream 08-25-2010 04:46 AM

If you want to write Herbie Hancock, just do what everyone does.
Press the [Quote] button to see what I did there.

Janszoon 08-25-2010 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Frumious B (Post 922651)
It's just that the name of the forum is Music Banter. It seems to me that you shouldn't have to resort to chicanery to type the name of a fairly famous and high profile jazz musician. I was on a baseball forum once where I couldn't type the name of the Atlanta Braves' manager without it being asterisked out. How stupid is that?

I know it's not the way for the new guy to make a good first impression, but it's asinine. Why should legitimate music discussion be held hostage to hangups over "Our Precious Moral Values TM"?

You're right that's it's asinine but unfortunately we're stuck with it for now. It's not something the moderators are able to change. And for the record you have to resort to fancy maneuvers to avoid Dick Dale being censored as well.

Freebase Dali 08-25-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 922580)
Wasn't 'gay' unblocked?

Yes, but gay isn't considered a swear. Why it was censored, I don't know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frumious B (Post 922651)
It's just that the name of the forum is Music Banter. It seems to me that you shouldn't have to resort to chicanery to type the name of a fairly famous and high profile jazz musician. I was on a baseball forum once where I couldn't type the name of the Atlanta Braves' manager without it being asterisked out. How stupid is that?

I know it's not the way for the new guy to make a good first impression, but it's asinine. Why should legitimate music discussion be held hostage to hangups over "Our Precious Moral Values TM"?

I'm sure most other people here already realize this, but our swear-filter isn't going away any time soon because of the google ratings this site gets due to its implementation. There may be some words currently filtered that could be a candidate for unblocking, but in the overall scheme of things, we'll just have to understand the reasoning behind it and not view it as an attack on liberty or some kind of governing moral standard.
If the price of using this free forum of which the owner spends money on is to accept certain mechanisms integrated into his forum, then that's something we simply have to deal with until other options are available, regardless of whether they seem asinine or not.

crash_override 08-25-2010 10:43 AM

My favorite is asshole, even though neither of those words are censored individually, together they become this ultimate duo of offensive language.

Mojo 08-25-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 922718)
Yes, but gay isn't considered a swear. Why it was censored, I don't know.



I'm sure most other people here already realize this, but our swear-filter isn't going away any time soon because of the google ratings this site gets due to its implementation. There may be some words currently filtered that could be a candidate for unblocking, but in the overall scheme of things, we'll just have to understand the reasoning behind it and not view it as an attack on liberty or some kind of governing moral standard.
If the price of using this free forum of which the owner spends money on is to accept certain mechanisms integrated into his forum, then that's something we simply have to deal with until other options are available, regardless of whether they seem asinine or not.

Plus, the filter doesnt block specific discussion of Herbie Hancock, just the last four letters of his name. Unfortunately the swear filter is not that advanced to the point it can actively follow discussion. Shame.


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