Un-fellow Americans...lend us yer ears

FRED HALE SR. · 01-08-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

I don't see the point in owning a manual unless (a) it's a sports car or (b) you do lots of towing/hauling. Unless you're stuck with some archaic 4 speed automatic the difference in mileage will be negligible, & with newer vehicles CVTs get better mileage.

For me personally its down to Manual transmissions holding up better. They require less service. I'm quite content driving manual and the difference in the vehicle I drive in mileage is about five miles per gallon so in some instances its beneficial.

Unknown Soldier · 01-08-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Let me guess, they're superior to American ones in some way, amirite?

Nah, they don't have a drive thru McDonalds on em'

NSW · 01-08-2013, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FETCHER.

Automatics are for rich lazy people I generally find. Over here anyway.

I'm don't consider myself lazy, and I'm most definitely not rich! But I do live in a city that has ****ty traffic on a daily basis and the idea of driving a manual transmission car here is horrifying. Automatic fo life!

Burning Down · 01-08-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

I don't see the point in owning a manual unless (a) it's a sports car or (b) you do lots of towing/hauling. Unless you're stuck with some archaic 4 speed automatic the difference in mileage will be negligible, & with newer vehicles CVTs get better mileage.

Personal taste. I like driving a manual.

Engine · 01-09-2013, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

I don't see the point in owning a manual unless (a) it's a sports car or (b) you do lots of towing/hauling. Unless you're stuck with some archaic 4 speed automatic the difference in mileage will be negligible, & with newer vehicles CVTs get better mileage.

A) Haha, you like speedy sports cars? Only overprivileged people and rednecks enjoy those.

B) I would think that a person driving in a snowy place would appreciate a manual transmission just to haul your own ass around.

I learned to drive on an automatic but quickly converted. I had a VW Golf front wheel drive manual (1989 model) that was able to plow through over a foot of snow without any shoveling when I lived above 9000 feet. It was awesome b/c snow-shoveling sucks. I haven't owned an automatic since then. Driving in crazy weather conditions is when the control factor matters. Spinning tires is idiotic when done on purpose, let alone innocently trying to drive up a low-grade hill. Embarrassing.

However, driving in gridlock-style highway traffic in a manual transmission sucks incredibly. After a couple years of that, you learn to hate manual transmissions, especially when you destroy your clutch and have to replace it. Because then you feel stupid for paying for a new clutch just for the pain of driving through a city commute that you hate in the first place.

My next car will definitely have an automatic transmission if I have to drive through miles and miles of city gridlock (which I am very hopeful not to need to do).

Trollheart · 01-09-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FETCHER.

I've never actually drove an automatic, it would be so bloody weird though. Just having a foot sit there, twiddling its thumbs. I think they would be good for hill starts and **** because you don't need to find your biting point or anything. I dunno why I actually prefer manuals though, just can't imagine driving without a clutch.

If your foot has thumbs Kay, I suggest you see your doctor immediately!

hip hop bunny hop · 01-11-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine

A) Haha, you like speedy sports cars? Only overprivileged people and rednecks enjoy those.

B) I would think that a person driving in a snowy place would appreciate a manual transmission just to haul your own ass around.

I learned to drive on an automatic but quickly converted. I had a VW Golf front wheel drive manual (1989 model) that was able to plow through over a foot of snow without any shoveling when I lived above 9000 feet. It was awesome b/c snow-shoveling sucks. I haven't owned an automatic since then. Driving in crazy weather conditions is when the control factor matters. Spinning tires is idiotic when done on purpose, let alone innocently trying to drive up a low-grade hill. Embarrassing.

However, driving in gridlock-style highway traffic in a manual transmission sucks incredibly. After a couple years of that, you learn to hate manual transmissions, especially when you destroy your clutch and have to replace it. Because then you feel stupid for paying for a new clutch just for the pain of driving through a city commute that you hate in the first place.

My next car will definitely have an automatic transmission if I have to drive through miles and miles of city gridlock (which I am very hopeful not to need to do).

Overpriveleged spendthrifts and rednecks are two of my favorite groups of people; when they merge into one, they create the market for such wonderful machines such as snowmobiles, jet skis, etc...

I appreciate purely practical cars, but whenever things get purely utilitarian they tend to get depressing. I'd kill for a late 70s t-top trans am, I don't give a **** if it's trashy as hell, I'd eat slim jims & spit redman into empty forties of king cobra while driving that trailer park special.

Regarding point B; my corner of Montana is semi-arid, so we only get a few feet every year, which never sticks 'round long thanks to the Chinook winds.

Unknown Soldier · 01-11-2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

Overpriveleged spendthrifts and rednecks are two of my favorite groups of people; when they merge into one, they create the market for such wonderful machines such as snowmobiles, jet skis, etc...

They certainly do look quite cool, I'll grant you that.

Bloozcrooz · 01-11-2013, 05:39 PM

Whats with the hate for the "overpriveledged&redneck?"

gunnels · 01-11-2013, 05:51 PM

Is that...a monster station wagon?