Fork in the Road

Mr. Charlie · 06-06-2014, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs

Nea I seriously do not understand why you are turning this into such a big issue. Same with both of them you mentioned as well. Using music banter isnt ALL IN or NEVER LOG ON. If you are having a busy part of your life or trying to not use the internet much then just posts when you can. Maybe log on a couple times a week for a few minutes to post or reply to some things.

Some months I am on here making 10 posts a day every day and plugging. Others I post maybe 2 posts if that a week. Dont let it rule your life just keep your account and post/contribute when you can.

aka Dont leave bruh.

Well said.

GuitarBizarre · 06-06-2014, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Just to clarify, JD was not banned for an insult. She actually requested a ban because of her annoyance that butthead/dirty was still here. I subsequently banned him and unbanned her and Paul. Sometimes, people need space from here. Many people take it too seriously.

In terms of welcoming new members, that has been kept up to date. Many mods and members welcome new people in their introduction threads. In fact, we have plenty of great new people that have joined the forum in the last couple of months who have stuck around. MB is a pretty welcoming community but at the same time we can argue over things.

My personal commitment is to keep trolls like dirty off the forum so that people don't feel like they can't be bothered to post with the endless drama dominating.

Shame the mod team as a whole can't seem to wrap their head around this ****ing concept. Dirty stuck around too long, butthead stuck around too long, FireWaterBurn turned out to be dirty too, and stuck around too long...

And every time I saw the same pattern - someone logs in who's obviously dirty, everyone calls them on it, it gets ignored and eventually dies down, troll troll troll for god knows how many months, then finally a couple temp bans (Usually along with Hermione getting another temp ban at the same time for arguing with the ****er) then a perm.

Then dirty freaks out and makes a hundred alt accounts again to get back at the mods.

Not to mention the number of other little ****s around here that should have been gone long ago, and where I know mods are basically fighting between themselves because some of them want these people to stick around.

WWWP · 06-06-2014, 07:22 PM

To tell my side of the story, I requested a ban from Clancy and I believe I said:

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner

Hi Clancy,

Please ban me for a month so I can avoid posting hateful things. I know responsibility lies in my own self control but I'm not sure I have it in me at the moment.

I'd appreciate not being patronized for my decision. I am fully aware that I can log off at any time, but I also was not willing to be an active member of a forum that accepted or ignored the offensive and annoying personality that was Dirty. The ban request was not some grand gesture of defiance, it was because I know myself well enough to know that I refuse to let things go when I feel they negatively affect me, the forum and society at large, and I also know this forum well enough to know that I would have been fighting alone and laughed at or banned for not just taking things as they are - "feeding the troll" or whatever you'd like to call it.

I'd also like to make it clear that I never asked Paul to follow suit, nor did I expect the kind messages and support for my decision from a handful of members that followed. I even got a phone call from Bob, just making sure I was alright.

Moments like that and the people involved in them are the reason I do love this forum, and the reason I keep coming back. I have made so many good friends here, and frankly I don't want an ******* like dirty to have the space on this forum to ruin or prevent those experiences for anyone else, and I don't think I should be expected to just deal with it. I wouldn't put up with people like him in real life and I'm not going to put up with it here.

So thank you mods, thank you Paul and Neo, and thanks to everyone who wasn't willing to watch this forum go to ****.

Paul Smeenus · 06-06-2014, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner

I'd also like to make it clear that I never asked Paul to follow suit, nor did I expect the kind messages and support for my decision from a handful of members that followed. I even got a phone call from Bob, just making sure I was alright.

This is true. When I read this post in the UCSB shooting thread I contacted Steph, I didn't want HER to feel like SHE was the one who had to go while 216/Dirty got to stay and spew that gawdawful crap in that thread and the feminism thread (both currently closed). I was thinking maybe I could get a petition going or something, she replied that she was only sure that she didn't feel like she could stay with that going on, and in fact requested the ban.

So the next day I had contacted some people I respect here about the idea of petitioning 216 off the board, would you be in favor of it (they all were), do you think it could work (this was not as certain), and while this was going on, 216/Dirty was spouting vile hideous misogyny in the shoutbox.

I was LIVID, I mean I really tried to ignore the little shit but how on EARTH could I ignore this. I'd had it. I contacted several mods and said that I wished to join Steph and requested a 30 ban, unless or until 216/Dirty was gone. This thread followed that, and he was permabanned within an hour.

I also wanna say something that I've wanted to say since this thread started almost two weeks ago. The OP to this thread may be the highest compliment I've ever been paid. Thank you Neo

*edited to add: I shoulda known better than to link to the shoutbox archive, it's already off by several pages

Mr. Charlie · 06-06-2014, 10:19 PM

You, livid? F*ck off. I refuse to believe it. You're a bastion of peace and tranquility, damnit.

Paul Smeenus · 06-06-2014, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie

You, livid? F*ck off. I refuse to believe it. You're a bastion of peace and tranquility, damnit.

I only become enraged by fools.

ESPECIALLY when they make light of traumatic situations in the lives of people that I consider my friends. Again. Even if the previous such instance was considerably worse.

Mr. Charlie · 06-06-2014, 10:49 PM

Serious question, do you like drama? I get the impression you do, that it's fuel for your fire. Some people seek it, create it where there ain't any.

Paul Smeenus · 06-06-2014, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie

Serious question, do you like drama? I get the impression you do, that it's fuel for your fire. Some people seek it, create it where there ain't any.

You don't get to decide there isn't any.

Mr. Charlie · 06-06-2014, 10:57 PM

No, I agree, and I wasn't implying you do create/seek drama. It seems you do, but I'm often mistaken, hence the question.

Paul Smeenus · 06-06-2014, 11:01 PM

I am ferociously loyal to my friends. That's all you need to know about me.

06-06-2014, 10:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mr. Charlie Shoo Thoughts Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: These Mountains Posts: 2,308	You, livid? F*ck off. I refuse to believe it. You're a bastion of peace and tranquility, damnit.

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Mr. Charlie Shoo Thoughts Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: These Mountains Posts: 2,308	Serious question, do you like drama? I get the impression you do, that it's fuel for your fire. Some people seek it, create it where there ain't any.

06-06-2014, 10:57 PM	#19 (permalink)
Mr. Charlie Shoo Thoughts Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: These Mountains Posts: 2,308	No, I agree, and I wasn't implying you do create/seek drama. It seems you do, but I'm often mistaken, hence the question.