Missing Posters Bulletin Board

[Guybrush]

Originally Posted by Frownland

I asked since reporting to Yac seemed like an ott effort to keep him on here and he strikes me as the kind of member you wouldn't be fond of. I guess it's just another chapter of in the decade-long beef with the mods that I'm apparently very skilled at reigniting.

If I were to file a complaint to Yac, it wouldn't primarily be because I'd want Jwb's ban overturned.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Guybrush

The handling of Jwb was pretty pathetic. Complaining to mods isn't going to help.

Send a PM to Yac instead. It's still not likely to help, but at least you've technically sent it to the right person.

I have yet to see any of you people come up with a reason it was wrong to ban him beyond gesturing at imaginary unfairness.

[Guybrush]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

I have yet to see any of you people come up with a reason it was wrong to ban him beyond gesturing at imaginary unfairness.

It is wrong for a moderator to escalate a conflict they should be working to de-escalate, all the while breaking the first rule that they themselves are supposed to uphold and enforce:

Originally Posted by Rule nr. 1

While debating and discussion is fine, we will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks, trolling, purposeless inflammatory posts or members deliberately provoking another member into committing any of these acts.

JWB then gets banned due to things posted during a conflict Frown helped escalate.

You might call it undermining the rules and moderators' integrity.

[Frownland]

^Subjective take, as are my own ideas regarding how a mod should operate. Also like I said, jwb was banned for long term behaviour, not just for that specific event. I didn't initially clarify because yall can't be given any information without it turning into a stupid whinefest but apparently the trash analysis is inevitable here.

Originally Posted by WWWP

Tell me, did I hit the nail on the head or what?
Playing the turn of events off as a noble choice only happened after I questioned it.

Ok next time I'll claim nobility immediately after doing something I don't consider noble instead of explaining myself when asked about something. Then when someone asks something, I'll not respond and let their speculation and mocking be the only discussion on the matter. If only I did that, I could be an honourable mod and Cool Guy. I'm just crushed that it didn't happen this go around.

I don’t care about the ban being reversed or whether jwb ever posts here again, but I do feel good about seeing frownland flail about pretending he can’t be bothered (and yet he can’t stop engaging) yet I dare say his jimmies were rustled. .

Yeah I have no qualms in saying that this stupid **** is incredibly annoying. Whatever blase traits you picked up in this exchange were more me saying **** off than trying to maintain some personality type.

[Key]

Originally Posted by WWWP

Mods are big ****ing gay for not speaking up

So far only Marie has responded so if it is as you say, the other mods probably have no idea what's going on.

[WWWP]

Originally Posted by Key

So far only Marie has responded so if it is as you say, the other mods probably have no idea what's going on.

They know

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Guybrush

It is wrong for a moderator to escalate a conflict they should be working to de-escalate, all the while breaking the first rule that they themselves are supposed to uphold and enforce:



JWB then gets banned due to things posted during a conflict Frown helped escalate.

You might call it undermining the rules and moderators' integrity.

What did jwb say that got him banned? None of you can answer that because none of you were actually following the discussion. I know why he was banned because I saw his bad faith transphobic argumentation for what it was and what he'd been doing for a long time whenever he was "just asking questions" to undermine any political discussion he was in.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by WWWP

They know

They're just focused on looking too cool to care.

[Key]

You heard it here guys, Frownland admits to not being cool.

[Guybrush]

Originally Posted by Frownland

^Subjective take, as are my own ideas regarding how a mod should operate. Also like I said, jwb was banned for long term behaviour, not just for that specific event. I didn't initially clarify because yall can't be given any information without it turning into a stupid whinefest but apparently the trash analysis is inevitable here.

Subjective take? If the way you mod is a mystery known only to yourself, you're doing it wrong.

The rules are still exactly the same as when I posted them over 10 years ago. They're supposed to give some idea about how moderation is supposed to happen here. If you're not gonna do that, at least change the rules or make your policy known. Have some integrity and try to be just a little bit quality minded.

As we say, working with quality:

Say (or write) what you do. Do what you say (or wrote). Write down what you did.

That means make your policy/rules known, act according to them and document so you can build/retain knowledge as a basis for later improvement. The last bit may be a bit much for certain people, but at least get the first two right.