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View Poll Results: Which statements do you agree the most with? (public poll)
1A. The rules should be applied equally to all members (ex. rules apply equally to mods and users) 15 60.00%
1B. The rules should NOT be applied equally to all members (ex. mods more lenient with regualrs) 8 32.00%
2A. Rules should apply equally to all forums 7 28.00%
2B. Rules should NOT apply equally to all forums (ex. "Safe Zones" less strict) 18 72.00%
3A. Outside safe zones, mod policy should allow for short, nonsense posts 10 40.00%
3B. Outside safe zones, mod policy should discourage short, nonsense posts 13 52.00%
3C. Outside safe zones, mod policy should prohibit short, nonsense posts 2 8.00%
4A. General mod policy should be to react to every instance where a rule is broken 10 40.00%
4B. General mod policy should allow for mods NOT to react to an instance where a rule is broken 15 60.00%
5A. Details of rule enforcement is ultimately between a mod and a user 7 28.00%
5B. Details of rule enforcement can ulimately be subject to other mods scrutiny 4 16.00%
5C. Details of rule enforcement can be subject to public scrutiny 16 64.00%
6A. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use temporary infractions 5 20.00%
6B. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use warnings, infractions / bans 16 64.00%
6C. There should be no general policy for how punishment is carried out 7 28.00%
7A. For rule enforcement, moderators should use a joint, anonymous account 4 16.00%
7B. For rule enforcement, moderators should use their personal accounts 21 84.00%
8A. A new moderation policy should have a trial run first (ex. 1 - 2 months) 18 72.00%
8B. A new moderation policy should NOT have a trial run first (implemented immediately) 5 20.00%
9A. The mod team should be bolstered with additional mods. 13 52.00%
9B. The mod team should NOT be bolstered with additional mods. 6 24.00%
9C. The current mod team should be retained. 17 68.00%
9D. Some or all of the current moderators should be replaced. 6 24.00%
10. Some of my concerns are not listed in the individual items, but I will voice them in a reply. 5 20.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-09-2015, 11:08 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Sure we can, and then we can make a poll to try and change it.

I wasn't going to reply to this thread, and I'm not sure if you'd want my opinion on things around here, but here it is anyway, and I mean no offense whatsoever:

I've only observed a few instances of people demanding change to the way things are run here, and for the most part the changes are brought up from someone who's presence here is a bit more stoic, which is uncommon for the majority of the other members, which are a bit more laid back. This, to me, seems like a control issue. Someone that won't allow a bit of youthful playfulness into a discussion, or needs their thoughts and opinions on what they believe to be taken very seriously by a group of strangers just seems a bit off. Sure, there are times when things get sketchy here, and there will always be trolls, and sometimes people feel the need for posting only one word, or a small phrase, and if you ask me, it's been handled with as much tact and grace as one could possibly expect from the few who are in the position to deal with it. I really only see this poll as an attempt at controlling something which is by nature, a chaotic entity, and is already being handled as such in a manner that not only nurtures fun and friendly discussion, but also addresses the intellectual side of things as well.

That's all I've got.
You make a lot of points that I agree with, Plankton; a nice summary of the atmosphere we enjoy on MB.

Just the bolded sentence I'm inclined to disagree with; the poll isn't trying to control anything - it's just trying to collect opinions, For instance, poll option 3A is for allowing short/nonsense posting anywhere on the site, but as I write, only two people have voted for it. Poll option 3B is for discouraging short/nonsense posts outside the Lounge and has four votes at the moment.

Anyone who likes the fun, freewheeling "noisy" MB can vote for 3A, which is a vote against more control and will help demonstrate how popular that option is.
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I'm not sure if this has been stated already, but I'd like to highlight the importance of reporting posts you find offensive. I think I can speak for the whole mod team by saying we don't read every single post or conversation that goes on.
I'll try to be more proactive about that, but it's just not something that ever occurs to me.
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The report post happens so infrequently that ppl might not know where it is located.: \
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You make a lot of points that I agree with, Plankton; a nice summary of the atmosphere we enjoy on MB.

Just the bolded sentence I'm inclined to disagree with; the poll isn't trying to control anything - it's just trying to collect opinions, For instance, poll option 3A is for allowing short/nonsense posting anywhere on the site, but as I write, only two people have voted for it. Poll option 3B is for discouraging short/nonsense posts outside the Lounge and has five votes at the moment.

Anyone who likes the fun, freewheeling "noisy" MB can vote for 3A, which is a vote against more control and will help demonstrate how popular that option is.
Maybe not the poll itself, or at least certain options, but considering the impetus of this whole story arc in the first place, I definitely think that that motivation is what's behind the general idea of the poll.
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The report post happens so infrequently that ppl might not know where it is located.: \
Bottom left of a post, right under the user's post count. The red triangle with the exclamation point.
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You make a lot of points that I agree with, Plankton; a nice summary of the atmosphere we enjoy on MB.

Just the bolded sentence I'm inclined to disagree with; the poll isn't trying to control anything - it's just trying to collect opinions, For instance, poll option 3A is for allowing short/nonsense posting anywhere on the site, but as I write, only two people have voted for it. Poll option 3B is for discouraging short/nonsense posts outside the Lounge and has five votes at the moment.

Anyone who likes the fun, freewheeling "noisy" MB can vote for 3A, which is a vote against more control and will help demonstrate how popular that option is.
And what will be done with that data? Ultimately, it will be used to steer the forum in a different direction, which by my logic, is a way to control things. Whether it has any real impact is anyone's guess.
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Bottom left of a post, right under the user's post count. The red triangle with the exclamation point.
HaHa thank you ! Total news to me. I'm off to scour MB for an offensive post I can use it on ...

Edit: I understand your caution, Plankton, but in the end it's only an indication of public opinion - it might be used to bolster/undermine a suggestion, but that's all. If enough people choose the status quo options, the results will become an argument for leaving things alone, so it won't necessarily "steer the forum in a different direction".
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that's what that is! I thought it meant my flash player crashed.


edit: waiting on your :imwithstupid: emjoi so I can practice report you.
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Outside safe zones, mod policy should discourage short, nonsense posts
I voted for this but I agree with Jans' take on emoticon/short response usage. I don't have a problem with someone acknowledging someone else's post with a simple "lol" or "good luck" or ROFL emoticon. I don't think those are nonsense.

However, I don't want to see a bunch of memes/gifs/emoticons, being responded to with more memes/gifs/emoticons.
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In the long conversation about this topic in Tore's original thread, he kept framing the issue the loaded way it's framed in the part you quoted. But that's not an accurate description of the two sides. The question is really "should context be taken into account when enforcing the rules or not?" Making it about long term members receiving special treatment is a red herring that distracts for the real issue.
No. There will always be unusual circumstances that will call for judgment regarding context so it's not a black/white issue of context or not.

The question is what it is. The example is that; an example.
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