That's what I meant too. "Sucks to your infractions" was a reference to infractions in general.

When I said drama/"having fun", I was speaking on two different things. Just like meme/gif/emoticon is three different things. :D

And like when you said "ki, you're an *******" but what you really mean is "ki, i love you, you're cool". Right? RIGHT?!

Thanks for noticing that my views are not really that extreme. I think I am relatively moderate in what I want from a forum. I have noticed that my suggestion to use the infractions system has lost wind. That was apparent from the old poll.

The poll, by the way, isn't just me. The first poll was called for by Roxy, I believe. This more detailed poll was initially suggested by Freebase in a post that criticized the first poll.

I'm just trying to get it right.

I completely agree, which is exactly why those posts need to be reported.

So any post that is jokingly offensive to another member even when the other members know it's a joke should be reported?

What do you think?

I'm hoping that's a "no" but with how things are going in these threads, the answer can be anything

If anyone's interested, here's what I voted :

1A. The rules should be applied equally to all members (ex. rules apply equally to mods and users)

To ensure fairness, rules should apply equally to all. For example, if someone breaks a rule, whether they are a mod, member or newbie shouldn't factor into punishment. If someone breaks a rule, they should be punished for what they did and not for who they are.


2A. Rules should apply equally to all forums

Whether you use a three strike rule or infractions, these are basically systems that give you some leeway or warning before consequences get serious, so I think that could give enough leeway that a safe zone is not required. On a more strict board, I might be for, but I can't see MB getting too strict for me - at least not with the current climate.


3B. Outside safe zones, mod policy should discourage short, nonsense posts

I think infractions should be consistently used to discourage short, nonsense posts.


5C. Details of rule enforcement can be subject to public scrutiny

Another way to ensure fairness.


6A. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use temporary infractions

Full on infractions policy looks so sweet on paper. I would love to see it tried out on MB in a full scale experiment or implementation. It automates the most difficult things about a moderators job (like banning users and keeping tabs on their post/punishment history) and I think it would be much more effective at modifying behaviour on the large scale than what we're currently doing.


7B. For rule enforcement, moderators should use their personal accounts

I like transparency and that's hard to preserve if moderators use an anonymous mod account to punish users. To ensure transparency then, people would have to keep record of what they do when they're on that account. Mods would also have to log in and out of this account and their personal account.

It just sounds like something that is not transparent, could be abused and would become fiddly/tedious to mods.

There are some arguments for as well, but not enough to make implementation seem like a good idea to me.


8B. A new moderation policy should NOT have a trial run first (implemented immediately)

When I answered this, I was thinking about my own proposal to use infractions. I am not really opposed to a trial period as such, but I think the idea's good enough to implement straight away. I think a trial period would have to be rather long to give a good, representative idea of what forum life under a new policy really would be like.


9A. The mod team should be bolstered with additional mods.

I think there are too few mods at the moment.

Whether the current mod team should be retained or not, I don't really have a strong opinion about, so I left both options C and D out.

Come on man.