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Old 08-30-2021, 05:05 PM   #111 (permalink)
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What I don't get is how you could believe in any conspiracy theory that puts so much faith into human competence. We're incompetent as ****. Look at Charles Schlund III. They were giving Manson drugs and trying to push him towards acting extreme according to Schlund. It was all an attempt to discredit the hippie movement. That's stupid as ****. Our government is stupid as ****. Like MKUltra. There was nothing special in it. They found nothing more effective at swaying people than good old fashioned propaganda.
Not disagreeing with the overall thrust of what you said but on Manson I find this book fairly convincing, if only because he doesn't try to dot all the i but shows how much is left unknown even after you explore all the holes in the official version of events.

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