How To Improve This Place

**Marie Monday** · 05-11-2021, 11:26 AM

I sympathise with the idea, and it's good to have you back Tore! Another forum legend I finally get to meet.

Also throwback to the time Mord/Zantheimi tried to make a rogue MB and essentially did a failed coup lol

Guybrush · 05-11-2021, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

I'd be down with moving but it's risky. How many people would be interested, would you be able to lift the forum off the ground and have other people come in etc...dunno.

Could be hard. I don't know. I would suggest leaving some stickes/notifications pointing members to the new boards and then wait for activity to shift to the new place.

I think I'd just do it quietly without alerting advameg to the fact.

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Originally Posted by Plankton

This ones free:

https://www.proboards.com/

Yes, free forums like that might be a way to go. They're filled with ads, though.

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday

I sympathise with the idea, and it's good to have you back Tore! Another forum legend I finally get to meet.

Also throwback to the time Mord/Zantheimi tried to make a rogue MB and essentially did a failed coup lol

Nice to meet you too, Marie

~~jwb~~ · 05-11-2021, 12:08 PM

The same thing you're describing happened in the rap forum I used to be on before here. Most of the key members left to another domain and the original one died off. The new one is still only a shell of what the original once was. It's dwindling in activity as it relies not or less exclusively on the people who fled the old board. New members don't sign up.

Dunno if that's what would happen here

I can't believe people actually make money off this ****. I'm jealous.

Guybrush · 05-11-2021, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

The same thing you're describing happened in the rap forum I used to be on before here. Most of the key members left to another domain and the original one died off. The new one is still only a shell of what the original once was. It's dwindling in activity as it relies not or less exclusively on the people who fled the old board. New members don't sign up.

Dunno if that's what would happen here

I can't believe people actually make money off this ****. I'm jealous.

Yeah, that's definitely a risk.

Another course of action could be to try to pressure advameg into doing something. The mods could go on a strike.

Trollheart · 05-11-2021, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

Having so recently resurfaced, I wanted to make a comment.

One of the reasons I left so many years ago was basically the points brought up in the first post here. I had made several requests to owners/Yac that they do stuff like update forum software. I'm pretty sure I even offered to do it for them for free, although I did realize it was unlikely they'd give me the logins. Anyways, I did my share of crying about this but was told that the meager profits MB generated meant that updates etc. didn't make sense from a cost perspective. Also, they were afraid of unintentionally breaking things.

It pissed me off because what they're basically doing is exploiting the community, us fine guys and gals. We generate the content that will show up in google searches or otherwise pull people in and generate ad-clicks that doesn't just come from bots. I didn't think a BBPress update was too much to ask. In a way, if you care too much about MB in its current state, you'll suffer for that. It's sad how they run it that way.

The logical conclusion to the problem for me at that time was an organized exodus from musicbanter. It's easy peasy. Give me or someone else here who's a little tech savvy half an hour or two and we'll have musicbanter 2.0 up and running on a new domain. Possibly a patreon or something similar could be set up to cover costs, although it can be done quite cheap (hosting isn't that expensive and there's lots of free forum software). People could bring over the content they wanted to preserve.

I suggested this emphatically, but the idea didn't catch. Maybe some saw it as mutiny, although I feel that loyalty to the community could align well with a migration to someplace else. Staying here is loyalty to advameg and what have they done the last X years to deserve it?

So that has a lot to do with why I left in the first place. Coming back, I see the same old BBPress and I guess we're all lucky it's still browser compatible. Still, it's been nice being back. While I still think the community here SHOULD migrate to something else, I won't bring it up again unless it's on topic

It would probably be a good idea to set up a kind of contingency forum, if it were possible to move most of the content from here to there in the event of this one biting the big one. I'm not entirely sure I could stand to see the likes of The Playlist of Life go back to single-figure views, mind you!

So, a backup forum?

~~jwb~~ · 05-11-2021, 12:45 PM

I say we track down this polish broad and rob her ass.. I wanna get paid for people **** posting

**Frownland** · 05-11-2021, 12:58 PM

Joining the discord might work better than bedazzling a fossil: https://discord.gg/ndbr7bg

**Marie Monday** · 05-11-2021, 01:00 PM

indeed

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Originally Posted by jwb

I say we track down this polish broad and rob her ass.. I wanna get paid for people **** posting

that's a quintessential jwb post right there

SGR · 05-11-2021, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

It would probably be a good idea to set up a kind of contingency forum, if it were possible to move most of the content from here to there in the event of this one biting the big one.

I am highly doubtful that that would be a simple task, given a new forum will likely have a much different backend architecture than this one does.

But yeah, who knows how much money is being made with this site. My guess would be that as soon as the cost to host it exceeds the amount of money they make from it, it'll be biting the dust and we'll be hung out to dry. If we're lucky, the owners will give the mods advance notice which will give us a brief period of time to coordinate a move to somewhere else.

DianneW · 05-11-2021, 01:03 PM

I belonged to a Forum for only a few months and the mods were strict although mainly towards females for what ever reason. The so called boss disliked me for being one of the lads to best describe the situation. A crowd of us would act the fool and we did have a lot of laughs, nothing too rude, but on the edge of suggestions innuendos, so when I joined in a mod would stamp on me..others knew the rules better than me and just did nothing basically..got use to that..was not that personnel with the lads but got told I was obscene by a mod. and criticised for the slightest reason, then suspended from certain threads for a few weeks then got banned for good for standing my ground..apparently you never are allowed to answer back and that I found out when I got the next ban....ok the record is 4 but all had the same rules....some joined me on another site but it did not really work that same....as it is true the memories over time build up and hard to leave behind...Now if the main, moved over together, then move your memories, hey presto that could work...

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p.s.
as a newbie I do not have attachments as yet....

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05-11-2021, 01:03 PM	#210 (permalink)
DianneW Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 1,161	I belonged to a Forum for only a few months and the mods were strict although mainly towards females for what ever reason. The so called boss disliked me for being one of the lads to best describe the situation. A crowd of us would act the fool and we did have a lot of laughs, nothing too rude, but on the edge of suggestions innuendos, so when I joined in a mod would stamp on me..others knew the rules better than me and just did nothing basically..got use to that..was not that personnel with the lads but got told I was obscene by a mod. and criticised for the slightest reason, then suspended from certain threads for a few weeks then got banned for good for standing my ground..apparently you never are allowed to answer back and that I found out when I got the next ban....ok the record is 4 but all had the same rules....some joined me on another site but it did not really work that same....as it is true the memories over time build up and hard to leave behind...Now if the main, moved over together, then move your memories, hey presto that could work.... p.s. as a newbie I do not have attachments as yet....

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05-11-2021, 12:08 PM	#203 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	The same thing you're describing happened in the rap forum I used to be on before here. Most of the key members left to another domain and the original one died off. The new one is still only a shell of what the original once was. It's dwindling in activity as it relies not or less exclusively on the people who fled the old board. New members don't sign up. Dunno if that's what would happen here I can't believe people actually make money off this ****. I'm jealous.

05-11-2021, 12:45 PM	#206 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	I say we track down this polish broad and rob her ass.. I wanna get paid for people **** posting