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Old 05-11-2021, 12:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The same thing you're describing happened in the rap forum I used to be on before here. Most of the key members left to another domain and the original one died off. The new one is still only a shell of what the original once was. It's dwindling in activity as it relies not or less exclusively on the people who fled the old board. New members don't sign up.

Dunno if that's what would happen here

I can't believe people actually make money off this ****. I'm jealous.
Yeah, that's definitely a risk.

Another course of action could be to try to pressure advameg into doing something. The mods could go on a strike.
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Old 05-11-2021, 12:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Having so recently resurfaced, I wanted to make a comment.

One of the reasons I left so many years ago was basically the points brought up in the first post here. I had made several requests to owners/Yac that they do stuff like update forum software. I'm pretty sure I even offered to do it for them for free, although I did realize it was unlikely they'd give me the logins. Anyways, I did my share of crying about this but was told that the meager profits MB generated meant that updates etc. didn't make sense from a cost perspective. Also, they were afraid of unintentionally breaking things.

It pissed me off because what they're basically doing is exploiting the community, us fine guys and gals. We generate the content that will show up in google searches or otherwise pull people in and generate ad-clicks that doesn't just come from bots. I didn't think a BBPress update was too much to ask. In a way, if you care too much about MB in its current state, you'll suffer for that. It's sad how they run it that way.

The logical conclusion to the problem for me at that time was an organized exodus from musicbanter. It's easy peasy. Give me or someone else here who's a little tech savvy half an hour or two and we'll have musicbanter 2.0 up and running on a new domain. Possibly a patreon or something similar could be set up to cover costs, although it can be done quite cheap (hosting isn't that expensive and there's lots of free forum software). People could bring over the content they wanted to preserve.

I suggested this emphatically, but the idea didn't catch. Maybe some saw it as mutiny, although I feel that loyalty to the community could align well with a migration to someplace else. Staying here is loyalty to advameg and what have they done the last X years to deserve it?

So that has a lot to do with why I left in the first place. Coming back, I see the same old BBPress and I guess we're all lucky it's still browser compatible. Still, it's been nice being back. While I still think the community here SHOULD migrate to something else, I won't bring it up again unless it's on topic
It would probably be a good idea to set up a kind of contingency forum, if it were possible to move most of the content from here to there in the event of this one biting the big one. I'm not entirely sure I could stand to see the likes of The Playlist of Life go back to single-figure views, mind you!

So, a backup forum?
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It would probably be a good idea to set up a kind of contingency forum, if it were possible to move most of the content from here to there in the event of this one biting the big one.
I am highly doubtful that that would be a simple task, given a new forum will likely have a much different backend architecture than this one does.

But yeah, who knows how much money is being made with this site. My guess would be that as soon as the cost to host it exceeds the amount of money they make from it, it'll be biting the dust and we'll be hung out to dry. If we're lucky, the owners will give the mods advance notice which will give us a brief period of time to coordinate a move to somewhere else.
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Yeah, that's definitely a risk.

Another course of action could be to try to pressure advameg into doing something. The mods could go on a strike.
I think attracting their attention for any reason is not in our best interest.
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I think attracting their attention for any reason is not in our best interest.
You might be right about that. At least one might want a backup forum in place first, just in case they go ape****.

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By the way, I've been writing bbpress.. which is wrong. This board runs on an ancient version of vbulletin.

Is it still getting swarmed with ad-bots due to the ancient captcha?
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Is it still getting swarmed with ad-bots due to the ancient captcha?
No idea on volume, but you can usually see three or four active spam accounts in the 'active users' on the bottom of the front page at any given moment. All with a joined date of the current day.
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Yeah, that's definitely a risk.

Another course of action could be to try to pressure advameg into doing something. The mods could go on a strike.
I sent them an e-mail.
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I sent them an e-mail.
Or that Although tried before, it's a good call.

Merit mentions having tried to email them in the first post, writing he got no response. When I did it last time many years ago, at least I got a reply from a guy called Ryan Willins or something who I think was advameg's spokesperson. All I got AFAIK was lip service.

But it's smart to check out to see if things might've changed.
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Advameg's HQ after a surprise attack by a rival forum hoster...
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Or that Although tried before, it's a good call.

Merit mentions having tried to email them in the first post, writing he got no response. When I did it last time many years ago, at least I got a reply from a guy called Ryan Willins or something who I think was advameg's spokesperson. All I got AFAIK was lip service.

But it's smart to check out to see if things might've changed.
Tbf he probably emailed them with concerns over George Soros and the Rothchilds.
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