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Paul Smeenus 01-17-2016 05:30 PM

Thanks, grindy, but I assure you I like some crap too LOL


I was one of between 30-50 people that was in attendance at The Moore Theater in Seattle in 2002 (I think) for this show that has become legend:



grindy 01-18-2016 10:23 AM

We all have our musical skeletons in the closet.

I love Hamster Theatre! Seeing them live would be awesome.
But RIO bands sadly don't really play around here.
Although Fred Frith comes here often. His wife is from around here (southern Germany). Hope he'll revisit his RIO days on a tour in my vicinity at some point.

Paul Smeenus 01-18-2016 11:11 AM

What I forgot to make clear in my Hamster Theatre post is the video I posted is from that show in Seattle, recorded by no less than Mr Bob Drake, in the first time HT had ever performed outside Colorado at "The Progman Cometh" (I know, stupid name for the festival), it was like 10am and no one in that tiny audience in that empty theater (I think The Moore holds about 1k) will ever forget it.

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1670891)
I love Hamster Theatre! Seeing them live would be awesome.
But RIO bands sadly don't really play around here.
Although Fred Frith comes here often. His wife is from around here (southern Germany). Hope he'll revisit his RIO days on a tour in my vicinity at some point.

Where are you again, grindy? I was stationed for a year and a half in Bamberg ('78-79, and yes I'm sure that's way before your time). I saw Zappa twice, including this event in Ulm

http://images.wolfgangsvault.com/sum...Z780826-PO.jpg

(I'll talk more about this in a more appropriate forum, or maybe I already have, idk)

Speaking of Frith, and my extension Naked City, my pick for the most terrifying piece of music I've ever heard


grindy 01-18-2016 12:25 PM

I think there's been a mix-up. The HT video you posted is an album song.
Would love to see a live one, especially if Drake filmed it.

Bamberg's in Bavaria, I'm in Baden-Württemberg (the other state in the utmost south), not far from its capital Stuttgart.

Seeing Zappa at that time must have been amazing. Well, seing him at all must have been.
There are lots of great free improv concerts around here, so I'm not complaining, but almost none of the weirder proggy stuff.

Oh yeah, that's a good one.
Just realised I haven't listened to that album in years. That's not right. Not right at all.

Paul Smeenus 01-18-2016 12:36 PM

You're right, I posted the only YouTube available and it's from the studio side. The album I was talking about is "Quasi Day Room" but YouTube sucks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pu..._Moore_Theatre


I will see what I can do about this...

grindy 01-18-2016 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1670925)
You're right, I posted the only YouTube available and it's from the studio side. The album I was talking about is "Quasi Day Room" but YouTube sucks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pu..._Moore_Theatre


I will see what I can do about this...

Now I got it! I thought you were talking about an actual video of the concert, which would have been awesome. I know and have that album. Didn't make the connection there.

mr.mick 01-18-2016 06:20 PM

my story is eerily similar to yours...

OccultHawk 04-10-2019 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fraig (Post 568644)
I got into Tanya Tagaq after hearing her on the Bjork album Medulla, then heard Mike Patton on Tagaq's new album and wow! I don't know how many times I've heard the MB albums in the last month, too many to count. Love all of Patton's other stuff too.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...etribution.jpg

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Retribution is the fourth studio album by Canadian Inuk musician Tanya Tagaq, which was released on October 21, 2016
This album and artist deserves more attention.

innerspaceboy 04-10-2019 09:52 AM

In 1996 I was 15 years old. Prior to one particular summer day, my entire musical scope of knowledge was limited to the rotation from an oldies FM station in my city. But one fateful day, a girlfriend spun me Underworld's Dubnobasswithmyheadman. It was the first music I ever heard which wasn’t top-40 radio rock, and I was forever changed. The progressive house cuts from that record inspired me to take a proactive role in exploring music critically and analytically, seeking out longform and experimental musics. That album set me on a path leading to a lifelong exploration of 20th-century music, a love for the ambient genre, and for the fringes of electroacoustic experimentation.

Actively exploring the history of electronic music, I began reading and discovered noise via Russolo's manifesto, Nyman's text on experimental music, Partch's Genesis of a Music, Prendergast's The Ambient Century, the culturally contextual music criticism of Simon Reynolds, and scores of other books chronicling theory and philosophy of experimental sound.

Some of my earliest record collecting was an array of albums from the Moog craze, which naturally led me to musique concrète and tape music composers like Tom Dissevelt, Dick Raaymakers, Manhattan Research, and synth pioneers like Subotnick and Schulze. Eno's Airports served as my initiation into ambient, (as it did for so many listeners), which later led me to drone, microhouse, and lowercase musics. Kosmische musik was being rediscovered by a new generation of listeners at the time, and a number of classic Brain releases were reissued in the Germany, the US, and UK.

Music blogs like holy****ing****40000 and ambientmusicguide were incredibly helpful resources, as were RYM-generated lists and user reviews. I joined a number of online vinyl communities and discovered countless essential experimental titles through those groups.The blogging community supplied me with complete discographic archives of several experimental record labels like DG avantgarde and Prospective 21e Siècle.

Through my blogging I've been fortunate enough to have independent artists send me limited run releases which has exposed me to a lot of great under-the-radar tunes.

The Bop Shop in Rochester was an equally valuable resource, hooking me up with imported first-pressings of all the classics, and some deeper cuts as well.

I still need to pick up a copy of David Stubbs’ Mars by 1980 for my next read. I'm also aware that my focus has always been on veterans of the avant-garde and that I'm missing an entire world of lesser-known and independent releases. I'm going to have to explore a few key threads here on MB to get the scoop.

This is a valuable community.

Zhanteimi 04-10-2019 11:18 PM

RYM and this place got me out of my comfort zone and into the madbeautiful world of experimental and avant-garde, and I've heard only a tiny bit--just enough to know I've only scratched the surface.


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