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Old 03-04-2010, 07:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Fave Avant-Garde Rock/Metal bands?

Behold... The Arctopus is pretty dizzying. If not for the song titles themselves, the music is just a mind****. They have moments of clarity which can be wicked when they're not simply jamming. Imagine that sans the vocalist and make the guitar a Warr(looks like two guitars melted together at the neck).

Akphaezya traipses that fine line between Lounge Jazz, World Music, Trance, and Melodic Death Metal. Imagine Arch Enemy and some World music(I have no goddamn idea, you pick something) mixed with some lady who sings/plays piano in a nightclub. Makes for a plink-plonky otherworldly blastfest.
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would say Ulver or Arcturus, but I've yet to have a clue on what's considered 'avant-garde' nowadays.
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Old 03-14-2010, 11:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Does lightning bolt count?
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Old 03-18-2010, 02:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Limp bizkit, lol?
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Old 04-03-2010, 12:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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how are you qualifying avant-garde
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Old 04-03-2010, 12:14 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Diablo Swing Orchestra. Really the only one I know of...

Not sure what qualifies music as "avant-garde" too be honest... from what I've heard though two Avant-garde artists can be COMPLETELY different.
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Behold... the Arctopus are amazing. "Delerium" is still getting plays. The drummer is just insanely amazing. Time changes like a yawn to him.

Also, Diablo Swing Orchestra is something all right... Weird ish. There are still a few great tracks they've got.

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Can't reply to this topic. It's like trying to condense the entire Avant Garde forum into one reply. Considering how loosely the word Avant Garde is thrown around it's silly. I mean, really, most of these things as excellent as they are, technically are just genre mixing progressive rock.

My absolutely favorite bands are usually labeled as avant-rock bands. I like then because their ambition in mixing genres. However, once it becomes rock, it technically isn't Avant-Garde since the point of Avant-Garde is to avoid the existence of established genre technique entirely.

Bruce Haack, John Cage, and Harry Partch are Avant-Garde due to the fact they use never heard before inventions/techniques to present music.

Estradasphere, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, and Mr.Bungle are really just amazing prog(3 of my favorite bands) that chose not to conform to "prog sensibilities". which, in itself, is an illogical concept seeing as the point of prog is to not have restraint, but I digress. I mean, closest in the list is SGM which lightly uses homemade instruments, and household items. Which, essentially, is just skiffle. I don't include Harry Partch from this because his music is seemingly entirely constructed off of the invention of new instruments.

Technically, Avant-Rock is just a paradox, and a poor labeling for a fantastic subdivision of progressive rock. One of which hasn't ever been labeled. Closest thing is "Rock Against Rock" which doesn't fit all bands because not all bands in the genre fit the anti-commercial attitude(Mr.Bungle in fact was licensed by a major label after their singer won a Grammy with a different band).

I have learned to settle with the genre name, but it's very difficult to figure out what makes things like Mars Volta, King Crimson, and Red Hot Chili Peppers generally considered prog rock, and what makes very similar bands avant-garde, or what makes Boredoms noise rock, and not Avant Garde. However, it inhibits me from making a list.

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Old 12-16-2010, 04:35 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Can't reply to this topic. It's like trying to condense the entire Avant Garde forum into one reply. Considering how loosely the word Avant Garde is thrown around it's silly. I mean, really, most of these things as excellent as they are, technically are just genre mixing progressive rock.

My absolutely favorite bands are usually labeled as avant-rock bands. I like then because their ambition in mixing genres. However, once it becomes rock, it technically isn't Avant-Garde since the point of Avant-Garde is to avoid the existence of established genre technique entirely.

Bruce Haack, John Cage, and Harry Partch are Avant-Garde due to the fact they use never heard before inventions/techniques to present music.

Estradasphere, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, and Mr.Bungle are really just amazing prog(3 of my favorite bands) that chose not to conform to "prog sensibilities". which, in itself, is an illogical concept seeing as the point of prog is to not have restraint, but I digress. I mean, closest in the list is SGM which lightly uses homemade instruments, and household items. Which, essentially, is just skiffle. I don't include Harry Partch from this because his music is seemingly entirely constructed off of the invention of new instruments.

Technically, Avant-Rock is just a paradox, and a poor labeling for a fantastic subdivision of progressive rock. One of which hasn't ever been labeled. Closest thing is "Rock Against Rock" which doesn't fit all bands because not all bands in the genre fit the anti-commercial attitude(Mr.Bungle in fact was licensed by a major label after their singer won a Grammy with a different band).

I have learned to settle with the genre name, but it's very difficult to figure out what makes things like Mars Volta, King Crimson, and Red Hot Chili Peppers generally considered prog rock, and what makes very similar bands avant-garde, or what makes Boredoms noise rock, and not Avant Garde. However, it inhibits me from making a list.
I agree. Not going to retract my list. My 'list' is a shorthand of experimental bands I really take a liking to. Maybe the genre/tag experimental would help?
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