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Old 08-20-2011, 04:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Patton has definitely done more experimental things than Fantomas or Mr. Bungle, check his guest spots on Naked City live albums, Hemopheliac, Moonchild Trio, or Adult Themes for a Voice for why people say he is experimental.
I do love the guy but I do agree upon his overaccreditation.
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Old 08-21-2011, 01:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Patton has definitely done more experimental things than Fantomas or Mr. Bungle, check his guest spots on Naked City live albums, Hemopheliac, Moonchild Trio, or Adult Themes for a Voice for why people say he is experimental.
I do love the guy but I do agree upon his overaccreditation.
Apart from 'Adult Themes For Voice' those are all Zorn projects with Patton as sideman.

and as for Adult Themes it's a flat knockoff of 'A Capella'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Cappe...dgren_album%29

I like Patton, as well, just saying.
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Apart from 'Adult Themes For Voice' those are all Zorn projects with Patton as sideman.

and as for Adult Themes it's a flat knockoff of 'A Capella'.

I like Patton, as well, just saying.
This is true. Perhaps Zorn brings out the best in Patton, the same can be said for several musicians he has worked with like Uri Caine or Dave Lombardo.

I checked out that "A Capella" album, and though ATFAV moderately mirrors it in theory, I found it to be a heavier and stranger album overall. Just my opinion though, maybe I listened to the wrong tracks.

Another dank avant garde band is Zu.
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Another dank avant garde band is Zu.
Indeed. You ever seen them live? They're absolutely phenomenal.
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Indeed. You ever seen them live? They're absolutely phenomenal.
I wish, I've seen video of them live and they do in fact seem brilliant live. They have not come to my country for a few years and they are far over due to play anywhere in the US.
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Avant-garde pop?

I mean, I'm quite familiar with the concept of it. You have musicians like The Residents, Arthur Russell, and The Raincoats, but I would love to find more.

Any suggestions?
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Avant-garde pop?

I mean, I'm quite familiar with the concept of it. You have musicians like The Residents, Arthur Russell, and The Raincoats, but I would love to find more.

Any suggestions?
Gastr Del Sol - Camoufleur

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Lol, the Raincoats are just straight up post-punk. I think the whole term 'avant-garde' is silly, but It's also where I'm most likely to get any discussion on this site. I suppose some innovative pop musicians would be Pram, Brigitte Fontaine, Moonshake (warning: hard voice to get used to for some), Macha (been enjoying a lot recently), Long Fin Killie, and maybe Broadcast?
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I think the whole term 'avant-garde' is silly,
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