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Old 03-26-2011, 09:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I personally would say Mars, and James Chance & The Contortions are my favorites but I'm a big fan of all of it. If you want to count the Lounge Lizards in there (they seem to have more of an effort at melody than the rest) then they are my favorite. I would say them and Suicide, but to me they seem to be part of free jazz more than no wave and Suicide was before the whole thing.
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Old 03-26-2011, 10:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Isn't it really only like five or six bands that were actually a part of that movement? My thoughts were Sonic Youth and Suicide but I don't think either one really count.
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Old 03-26-2011, 11:09 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Regrettably, I haven't listened to much in the "No-Wave" genre. If it's like Sonic Youth, however, even if it's a little more bizarre, I'm onboard.

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Old 03-26-2011, 11:24 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Isn't it really only like five or six bands that were actually a part of that movement? My thoughts were Sonic Youth and Suicide but I don't think either one really count.
I believe they both count. Suicide was more of an influence on No Wave, though. Many of the no wave musicians, such as Lydia Lunch, were inspired by them to take part in the New York music scene at that time. So, I suppose they were apart of the early No Wave movement, while Sonic Youth was in the later part of it.

I learned that from that Kill Your Idols documentary which was very informative of the movement. I strongly suggest some of you check it out.
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:04 AM   #15 (permalink)
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^^ Kill Your Idols is a pretty good documentary. It doesn't really try to define No Wave in some exact terms, you know, as in proper definition, but to give more of a setting and a frame. So Suicide is mentioned as a big inspiration for no wave bands, but I wouldn't call them no wave. And the documentary also mentions no wave revival of the 00s, so it's more like a retrospective of New York underground noisy music.

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I always thought of No Wave as not so much a conscience movement, but a specific short lived scene in New York in late 70s. Like minded individuals inspired by bands like Suicide for example thought it was possible to express anything without needing to follow any rules (and that includes rules of punk and new wave) and without needing to actually 'play' instruments. Those were just like any other objects used in performance art. Expression was more important than musicianship. That's why I think these bands were meant to be experienced live...*sigh* Sonic Youth were from the start more musically conscience and by the time they started the no wave scene had already changed and dissolved.

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Regrettably, I haven't listened to much in the "No-Wave" genre. If it's like Sonic Youth, however, even if it's a little more bizarre, I'm onboard.
Not really like Sonic Youth. Early Sonic Youth sound was greatly influenced by it, but especially by Glenn Branca. Like I said, Sonic Youth were more artistically and formally conscience. For example, Sonic Youth noise is informed by dissonance and atonality of avant-garde music whereas No Wave noise is a product of not giving **** about musicianship. So that's quite a punk attitude actually even though Lydia Lunch rebelled against punk as well. Rebellious nature of punk and adventurous nature of performance art, that's how I see No Wave.

Here's a pretty interesting video of Byron Coley and Thurston Moore talking about that whole scene and the book they wrote about it.
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:15 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Out of the bands that are definitely O.G.'s of that original scene I will credit Teenage Jesus and the Jerks as my favorite, in large part because I've liked Lydia Lunch for a long time. On one of the documentaries I saw, and it was probably Kill Your Idols, the footage of the band DNA really impressed me.
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I can tell you I wasn't all that impressed with the new "no wave" artists that I saw on that documentary.
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Anyone have mediafire/megaupload for Lounge Lizard's debut?
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Old 03-27-2011, 07:53 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I can tell you I wasn't all that impressed with the new "no wave" artists that I saw on that documentary.
I thought they were portrayed a little unfairly, iirc.
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