Dazzling Killmen

Engine · 09-07-2009, 02:17 PM

This is some avant garde jazz hardcore that I never really got into but I should have. I'm liking them enough that I feel that they deserve a thread. Anyone wanna talk about some old Skin Graft stuff?

Sneer · 06-10-2011, 05:49 PM

No replies to this? You bad people.

Dazzling Killmen are fucking insanely good, especially Face of Collapse. Wouldn't say they're jazzcore, they're more a math rock/post hardcore band influenced by the jazz arrangements of guys like Sun Ra... but I'm just being a genre Nazi really.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 06-10-2011, 05:55 PM

eh, before I clicked I got all psyched about this. Honestly, by stanards of this type of music... it's average.

Then again, that's just from this video. I think it's the dull percussion. Frankly, it's hard to do a Last Exit or Naked City type thing without a Ronald Shannon Jackson or Joey Baron. Feels kind of PG in comparison.

Engine · 06-10-2011, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

No replies to this? You bad people.

Dazzling Killmen are fucking insanely good, especially Face of Collapse. Wouldn't say they're jazzcore, they're more a math rock/post hardcore band influenced by the jazz arrangements of guys like Sun Ra... but I'm just being a genre Nazi really.

I've been thinking that for over a year myself.
As for the genre - I really can't remember why I called this 'avant garde jazz hardcore'. Really I always just lumped them in with noise rock put out by Skin Graft in the early 90s.

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

eh, before I clicked I got all psyched about this. Honestly, by stanards of this type of music... it's average.

Then again, that's just from this video. I think it's the dull percussion. Frankly, it's hard to do a Last Exit or Naked City type thing without a Ronald Shannon Jackson or Joey Baron. Feels kind of PG in comparison.

Sorry, man, I know you like it raw. I'll try to post about something more R-rated next time.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 06-10-2011, 06:13 PM

I'll admit I like it much better than 'Painkiller' which I feel, apart from some playful psuedojapanese improvised fake arguments between Zorn and Tatsuya Yoshida is pretty tedious.

BastardofYoung · 06-10-2011, 06:43 PM

Dazzling Killmen are great from what I have heard. I mentioned them in the best math rock thread the other day, "Face of Collapse" is an album everybody should listen to.

I have not listened to a lot of the labels discography, but from what I have I have enjoyed.

Dazzling Killmen, Shorty, U.S. Maple, Colassamite and Melt-Banana have released some great stuff on the label.

BastardofYoung · 06-10-2011, 06:44 PM

favorite by them thus far.

Sneer · 06-10-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

eh, before I clicked I got all psyched about this. Honestly, by stanards of this type of music... it's average.

Then again, that's just from this video. I think it's the dull percussion. Frankly, it's hard to do a Last Exit or Naked City type thing without a Ronald Shannon Jackson or Joey Baron. Feels kind of PG in comparison.

Average compared to who? I don't think they're trying to do a Naked City at all, it's much more akin to stuff by the likes of Rodan, Drive Like Jehu etc, and I think DK stands up well against such peers.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 06-10-2011, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

Average compared to who? I don't think they're trying to do a Naked City at all, it's much more akin to stuff by the likes of Rodan, Drive Like Jehu etc, and I think DK stands up well against such peers.

To things I've heard that fuse thrash/hardcore with jazz. I mean, it just feels very contained.

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BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Dazzling Killmen are great from what I have heard. I mentioned them in the best math rock thread the other day, "Face of Collapse" is an album everybody should listen to. I have not listened to a lot of the labels discography, but from what I have I have enjoyed. Dazzling Killmen, Shorty, U.S. Maple, Colassamite and Melt-Banana have released some great stuff on the label. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

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BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	favorite by them thus far. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.