Avantgarde/experimental fans among your friends/relatives etc.

Black Francis · 10-15-2014, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

That's exotic, if you don't mind me saying so.
Didn't think I'd say this, but I guess: God bless the rich kids, then.

And their drugs

Pet_Sounds · 10-13-2014, 04:52 PM

Among my circle of friends and family, I'm the only one who enjoys any sort of experimental music. None of them appreciate even the most accessible psychedelia. For example, a friend once asked me what I listened to. I played him the Beatles' "Tomorrow Never Knows". He said, "That can't be the Beatles, they made rock!" AARGH!

grindy · 10-14-2014, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

Among my circle of friends and family, I'm the only one who enjoys any sort of experimental music. None of them appreciate even the most accessible psychedelia. For example, a friend once asked me what I listened to. I played him the Beatles' "Tomorrow Never Knows". He said, "That can't be the Beatles, they made rock!" AARGH!

Heh.
Let's not forget the stadium rock anthem Revolution 9.

Ninetales · 10-20-2014, 06:20 PM

I have one friend that's big into some cool experimental stuff (powerelectronic, noise, grindcore to name a few) so he's good for recs there. Have friends that overlap in other ~non-experimental~ music tastes tho so it's all good. I rarely start convos on music anyways IRL. Most of my good friends likely have no idea what I listen to.

grindy · 10-21-2014, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

I rarely start convos on music anyways IRL. Most of my good friends likely have no idea what I listen to.

Same with me. I just stopped talking about music at some point, because you just seem like some snobbish hipster weirdo eventually and I don't like that.

Holerbot6000 · 10-24-2014, 01:33 PM

I used to think it was my DUTY to turn my friends on to all the wonderful music I was discovering that they might not otherwise hear. Then I would be surprised and sometimes even a little hurt when they would just look at me like I'd had a brain aneurysm or just arrived from the planet Tralfamador. And I could not even win for losing. I'd finally find that friend who actually liked listening to the sound of someone banging on a can and screaming and I would proceed to alienate THEM with some Desi Arnaz or Carmen Miranda record. I was too eclectic for my own good!

I think it was at some point in my mid-30's when I just gave up and stopped trying to be a musical pied piper for my friends and family. Everyone I knew was listening to the Dave Matthews band (Yack!) and I was trying to turn them on to these grimy little Japanese garage bands I was digging. I just had to accept the fact that, musically, I was on my own.

I just play what I like now and damn the torpedoes and, funnily enough, now I get people asking me all the time - Hey what is that you're listening to?

Zack · 11-13-2014, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Holerbot6000

I used to think it was my DUTY to turn my friends on to all the wonderful music I was discovering that they might not otherwise hear. Then I would be surprised and sometimes even a little hurt when they would just look at me like I'd had a brain aneurysm or just arrived from the planet Tralfamador.

A couple coworkers borrowed my MP3 player the other day to play in our back room, having forgotten both of theirs. They set it to play on Random. About 30 minutes later, they returned it saying something like, "Ummm, you can have this back; you're tastes are a bit, well, borderline insane?"

From their descriptions, I think it played some To Mera (Prog-metal), Ravi Shankar, and was starting in on Terry Riley's "In C". Poor, dubstep-listening kids, they had no idea what was in store for them...

The sad part is, none of that stuff is really out there...

EPOCH6 · 11-13-2014, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Zack

A couple coworkers borrowed my MP3 player the other day to play in our back room, having forgotten both of theirs. They set it to play on Random. About 30 minutes later, they returned it saying something like, "Ummm, you can have this back; you're tastes are a bit, well, borderline insane?"

From their descriptions, I think it played some To Mera (Prog-metal), Ravi Shankar, and was starting in on Terry Riley's "In C". Poor, dubstep-listening kids, they had no idea what was in store for them...

The sad part is, none of that stuff is really out there...

I'd suggest being more weary of setting if you want to turn people on to experimental music. The back room at work is probably the last place on Earth suitable for experimental music. The best way to ease friends into weird music is to wait until they're high on something, in a comfortable setting, and go "Hey maaaaaaan, wanna hear something tripppppyyy?", that's when the gates to Valhalla really open and they're truly primed for the new Pharmakon album or Comus' First Utterance or Naked City's Torture Garden or whatever else you have up your nasty experimental sleeves. People generally don't let in weird **** unless their cultural walls have been torn down by something else first, like drugs, or a well made documentary on Netflix, or a well worded post on Music Banter, or a spiked drink....

Zack · 11-13-2014, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EPOCH6

I'd suggest being more weary of setting if you want to turn people on to experimental music. The back room at work is probably the last place on Earth suitable for experimental music.

I wasn't really trying to turn them on to anything. They asked for it, and I gave them the warning that "it would be Zack Music, not dubstep or country."

But, none of that stuff was particularly experimental, except the Terry Riley, but even that is pretty tame...

I just thought it was a slightly humorous, relatively relevant story to recount!

Rowan Weaver · 12-14-2014, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by EPOCH6

... or a spiked drink....

Pfffft.

Well, originally it was my older brother who turned me onto the scene, but the farthest he ever really got was Death Grips. He'll still describe music as "weird" during a serious conversation and, while there's absolutely nothing wrong with liking pop, he'll keep casually saying some pop producer is a "master" when they keep rehashing the same stupid tinny accelerando for the obviously structured climax of every stupid song they write.

It's the Ke$ha guy, by the way (She kinda just sounds like classic rock with party themes by now... *shrug* not my thing).
But yeah, he's the kind of person who listens to things song-by-song instead of a larger context like albums or something, and sometimes I'll hear his playlist jump from ABBA to some track off Shaking the Habitual and it's really jarring. He's a really smart guy, but sometimes I want to sit down and talk about how analysis of music in the correct context is just as important as analysis of vulgar cinema...
Just listen to Spirit They're Gone, Spirit They've Vanished already! It's not supposed to be pleasant, it doesn't cover pleasant themes! It's like complaining that Lars von Trier films aren't colorful enough...

Yeah he's the only person I know who has any roots in the avantgarde , and he certainly gets the ideas, he just applies them more to film and lets music be surface-level entertainment.
Other than that, I guess I can listen to Person Pitch in the car cause my dad likes Panda's voice and it never gets "too weird," and sometimes if I catchmy mom in th right mood I can talk my way through Mount Eerie or the Glow pt2 and explain it in a way she seems to appreciate. But I want to play Ples Upiru in the car! Why can't people be more accepting of the surface-level entertainment garnered by playing a violin with a chair leg and screeching along? (Iva's my current obsession. That trip-hop album with Yokoto was... unexpected and amazing)

Blather blather rant rant self deprecating joke about being pretentious

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Pet_Sounds Remember the underscore Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The other side Posts: 2,488	Among my circle of friends and family, I'm the only one who enjoys any sort of experimental music. None of them appreciate even the most accessible psychedelia. For example, a friend once asked me what I listened to. I played him the Beatles' "Tomorrow Never Knows". He said, "That can't be the Beatles, they made rock!" AARGH! __________________ Everybody's dying just to get the disease

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Ninetales Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: livin wild Posts: 2,179	I have one friend that's big into some cool experimental stuff (powerelectronic, noise, grindcore to name a few) so he's good for recs there. Have friends that overlap in other ~non-experimental~ music tastes tho so it's all good. I rarely start convos on music anyways IRL. Most of my good friends likely have no idea what I listen to.

10-24-2014, 01:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Holerbot6000 Music Mutant Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: near a record store Posts: 327	I used to think it was my DUTY to turn my friends on to all the wonderful music I was discovering that they might not otherwise hear. Then I would be surprised and sometimes even a little hurt when they would just look at me like I'd had a brain aneurysm or just arrived from the planet Tralfamador. And I could not even win for losing. I'd finally find that friend who actually liked listening to the sound of someone banging on a can and screaming and I would proceed to alienate THEM with some Desi Arnaz or Carmen Miranda record. I was too eclectic for my own good! I think it was at some point in my mid-30's when I just gave up and stopped trying to be a musical pied piper for my friends and family. Everyone I knew was listening to the Dave Matthews band (Yack!) and I was trying to turn them on to these grimy little Japanese garage bands I was digging. I just had to accept the fact that, musically, I was on my own. I just play what I like now and damn the torpedoes and, funnily enough, now I get people asking me all the time - Hey what is that you're listening to?