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Tristan_Geoff 10-17-2016 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1759059)
Oh look, somebody who's not allowed to be wrong complaining about somebody else who is opinionated and belligerent.

That's pretty avant-garde. Can you record it?

OccultHawk 10-17-2016 08:01 PM

I think no matter what anyone suggests Frownland is going to say for whatever reason that's not what he's talking about:

First shot:

Charles Ives

innerspaceboy 10-17-2016 10:06 PM

My knowledge base is limited to 20th-century avant-garde classical, but lately, I've been enjoying a few noteworthy albums:

Harry Partch - The World of Harry Partch (1969) featuring the sidelong composition, "Daphne of the Dunes"

http://i.imgur.com/1lw09btl.jpg

This was an enjoyable follow-up to my first Partch record, Delusion Of The Fury - A Ritual Of Dream And Delusion which was released just two years after TWoHP.

http://i.imgur.com/Hwkod3zl.jpg

I confess I still haven't cracked the cover of his masterwork, Genesis of a Music from 1946. I really need to make the time to read it.

http://i.imgur.com/ARdGIb0l.jpg

John Cage • Christian Wolff (1963) was another rewarding purchase. Side A is Cage's "Cartridge Music" - sounds created from the manipulation of turntable cartridges. This was his first electronic work and is really a significant milestone for collectors of electroacoustic recordings. Side B features three pieces by composer Christian Wolff - "Duo For Violinist and Pianist," "Summer for String Quartet," and Duet II for Horn and Piano." This side is far more pastoral and gentle and serves as a lovely complement to Cage's composition.

http://i.imgur.com/S90JXb3l.jpg

And the third recent purchase was Panorama of Musique Concrète: Works by Henry, Schaeffer and Arthuys (1956). I suspect you are already familiar with this recording, as it appears on numerous musique concrète essentials lists.

http://i.imgur.com/NqU6ypIl.jpg

I'll name one more LP you might enjoy - this one from the Folkways Science sublabel, issued in 1957. Various ‎– Sounds Of New Music showcases compositions by John Cage, Henry Cowell, Vladimir Ussachevsky, Henry Jacobs, and others for a wonderful collection of avant-garde music. But it was track 5 on side A which made me pick this one up - Edgard Varèse's famous Ionization.

http://i.imgur.com/ABHPhRDl.jpg

My apologies if you dismiss these as "old-hat" avant-garde. Modernism and Futurism have come and gone, and you may be seeking novel concepts in new music. But I consider these important works and find them to be wonderfully enjoyable even sixty years after their composition.

Oriphiel 10-18-2016 02:54 PM

Just take a song you like and slow it down to a ridiculous degree. Instant Avant Garde music.


Key 10-18-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Suzy Creamcheese (Post 1759572)
Just take a song you like and slow it down to a ridiculous degree. Instant Avant Garde music.


You mean like this?: https://thenumber7.bandcamp.com/track/galaxy-uno

Frownland 10-18-2016 03:00 PM

Bull of Heaven did it first.

And ja, OccultHawk, what makes you choose Ives? He definitely changed a lot as far as composition goes, but his music is rooted in tradition.

OccultHawk 10-18-2016 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1759576)
Bull of Heaven did it first.

And ja, OccultHawk, what makes you choose Ives? He definitely changed a lot as far as composition goes, but his music is rooted in tradition.

That's what I figured.

Frownland 10-18-2016 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1759600)
That's what I figured.

I'm all ears if you think his music (or one of his compositions) is 100% avant-garde.

innerspaceboy 10-18-2016 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Suzy Creamcheese (Post 1759572)
Just take a song you like and slow it down to a ridiculous degree. Instant Avant Garde music.

Justin Bieber's "U Smile (800 x Slower)" will always be my favorite Paulstretch.


innerspaceboy 10-18-2016 04:36 PM

Just blogged it but this is killer avant electronic stuff, so it's worth a cross post.

Basta Records in the Netherlands put out this great box set of Philips label Dutch electronic music from the 1950s. Details here.

http://i.imgur.com/dEVU5v7l.jpg


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