Why Don't I Like Avant Garde?

GroovyPanda · 10-01-2017, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I take it you mean Bitches Brew?

Oops.

Ah, indeed. Thanks for the correction. OH.

OccultHawk · 10-02-2017, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GroovyPanda

Oops.

Ah, indeed. Thanks for the correction. OH.

I don't think of it as avant garde but it's a fine place to start.

Get high. Put on your headphones. Walk at night in the woods, through the city, or ride a subway. Blast Miles Runs the Voodoo Down. If for any reason you feel inclined to turn it off turn it up instead.

Late period Coltrane is a progression. Some people might feel at home with it right away and jump in. If you don't feel like that first get to know A Love Supreme and African Brass. Late period Coltrane might not seem like it at first but it's very deeply connected to his earlier works. He keeps bending and bending and reorganizing the notes in more and more complicated patterns. Follow the path of My Favorite Things. Take your time about it. Learn the Sound of Music version. Take your time with early versions. Move at your own pace. Just that one song is decades of work. I also suggest going back to Schoenberg's early piano pieces. Take your time listening to how following composers dealt with his 12 tone ideas and how they worked with atonality through both dissonance and ambiguity. Also take note of how previously radical ideas are now mainstream. You're probably already far more connected with the avant garde than you realize.

GroovyPanda · 10-02-2017, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I don't think of it as avant garde but it's a fine place to start.

Get high. Put on your headphones. Walk at night in the woods, through the city, or ride a subway. Blast Miles Runs the Voodoo Down. If for any reason you feel inclined to turn it off turn it up instead.

Late period Coltrane is a progression. Some people might feel at home with it right away and jump in. If you don't feel like that first get to know A Love Supreme and African Brass. Late period Coltrane might not seem like it at first but it's very deeply connected to his earlier works. He keeps bending and bending and reorganizing the notes in more and more complicated patterns. Follow the path of My Favorite Things. Take your time about it. Learn the Sound of Music version. Take your time with early versions. Move at your own pace. Just that one song is decades of work. I also suggest going back to Schoenberg's early piano pieces. Take your time listening to how following composers dealt with his 12 tone ideas and how they worked with atonality through both dissonance and ambiguity. Also take note of how previously radical ideas are now mainstream. You're probably already far more connected with the avant garde than you realize.

Thanks, very much! You're probably correct that I am kind of connected.

I appreciate the wonderful suggestions (Gin is my strongest form of drugs so that will have to do. LOL.).

Do you find an association between avant garde people and their general personalities. I'm very positive and upbeat and have truly never felt "dark" or depressed. Sure a bit blue--when someone dies, etc--but never depressed or seriously angry. Just an even keeled grounded person.

Maybe my personality is just not AG?

**Janszoon** · 10-01-2017, 05:42 PM

What about avant-garde avant-garde music? It just sounds like normal pop music.

GroovyPanda · 10-02-2017, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

What about avant-garde avant-garde music? It just sounds like normal pop music.

You're brilliant!

**Frownland** · 10-01-2017, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

doseone rules, that project is constantly growing on me. mad it's not on spotify when all of his solo stuff is though.

i'll check out the other track.

My solo name comes from the track Questions Over Coffee

OccultHawk · 10-01-2017, 05:47 PM

Everybody post whatever avant garde music willynilly

**Frownland** · 10-01-2017, 05:48 PM

Zhanteimi · 10-01-2017, 05:49 PM

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**Frownland** · 10-01-2017, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mord

^after watching the documentary about this guy, I've come to love him.

I listened to it for the first time while walking home after a night of tripping my absolute ass off on shrooms walking home at about 3 or 4 AM, still having a colourful time. It's one of my favourite albums even though it crushed me a bit that day.

Tl;dr OP should do drugs.

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