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monellia 02-24-2008 04:20 PM

The description of this forum is deserving of a lol

Necromancer 02-28-2008 12:38 AM

lol.....zzzzzz:yikes:

Vandyman 03-03-2008 05:28 AM

I think the original question may have been much more simple. I think the question may have been able to be changed to "Is there any good new orchestra music out there?"

Deepislandboy 06-20-2008 06:16 PM

Many cities have their own orchestra's and symphonies. Like the Vienna Philharmonic.

clavis 06-26-2008 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ddpeaks (Post 13941)
I used to have an album, one of those "pure moods" albums and I loved it. Along the lines of classical rock. Had Tubular Bells and such like on it. Would you still class it as classical music or is it pushing too far toward mainstream music???

On the words alone, "modern classical" is an oxymoron... self-contradictory. On the generic use of the words, "classical" would be re-worded to be "serious music". And so yes, there are "modern serious music".... and it depends on how "serious" you want to music to be. As far as I know, Beatles' music are deep and serious, so are the various songs from Sound of Music, or some of Celine Dion's songs.

Ok, my point is, the terms can be all relative. The usual sense of "classical" means the music lasts the test of times, trends, and fashion. So if we refer to music by Mozart or Beethoven, sure, they survived centuries are still favored by some music lovers of our times. Modern compositions, however, have yet to undergo this test of time. We have seen "oldies" that are still enjoyed by some music lovers, so in a sense, these "oldies" are just as "classical" as Beethoven. (ducking... blaspheme unintended)

The "serious" of the "serious" are, perhaps, those into Expressionism, Pointilism, Minimalism, Neo-Classicism, or any other "-isms" that you can name. From my limited knowledge, look for music by Schoenberg, Webern, (for Expressionism), Philip Glass (early works, for Minimalism), Prokoffief (Neo-Classicism)

Regards.

Sikiapaninishmashma 08-17-2008 12:00 AM

there is such thing, go to san francisco to enter the scene. intensity seems to be a large contributing factor. i agree that it seems contradictory. classical music seems to have become defined by the instrumentation rather than the time period. classical music is always seriously constructed. i guess as long as you follow along the proper guidelines of symphony or sonata etc. it can be classified as such.

MoxieMan 08-23-2008 06:08 PM

Umm, maybe you are referring to "NeoClassical" music?

In that case, composers like Ennio Morricone and John Williams should do it for ya.

classylady 09-09-2008 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOverboardBand (Post 185470)
technically no, but there should be.

Actually, there really is a vast presence of modern classical period music out there. I'll give one fantastic example:

John Tavener's The Whale

This composer does take some influences from late Romantic Period, but it's really extraordinary what he has accomplished: Especially due to the fact that he's a British Composer: There weren't too many great composers from The UK when you look as far back as Early Baroque...

Oh yeah, there's a tidbit I forgot to mention: He got Knighted 8 years ago for his contribution to music...

Thrice 09-09-2008 11:47 AM

I like taking classical pieces and modernizing them on the piano.
I also call them all the same thing; 'A modern classic 1' etc....
My last was Franz Shubert (sp?) La Serenade and pretty much making it real sick.

classylady 09-09-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrice (Post 516200)
I like taking classical pieces and modernizing them on the piano.
I also call them all the same thing; 'A modern classic 1' etc....
My last was Franz Shubert (sp?) La Serenade and pretty much making it real sick.

That's a really good tune, but extremely sad IMHO. What did you add to it? I can see adding some Classical Guitar to back up some of the harmonics and even someone playing something soft like a muffled trumpet.

Oh to go back to my original post on this thread, another modern composer that I forgot to mention was Billy Joel: He wrote a series of classical pieces early in the decade that actually hit #1 on the classical charts. The name of the CD is Fantasies and Delusions: It's actually pretty good!


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