Is there such a thing as modern classical?
 

I used to have an album, one of those "pure moods" albums and I loved it. Along the lines of classical rock. Had Tubular Bells and such like on it. Would you still class it as classical music or is it pushing too far toward mainstream music???

Modern classical is sort of a contradiction to itself, something like jumbo shrip...see what i'm tryint to say, doesn't work

I agree. It's a contradiction. It's not classical yet, because it's modern. that would be like if someone decided to come out with a "modern" oldies album. you know?

When people say modern classical or new classical they are usually talking about groups/artists like Bond, Vanessa Mae, Maksim et al.

Dave

dont forget yngwie malmsteen!!!

What about the minimalists (Reich, Glass, Riley etc.)? Classical music with a modern aesthetic. I personally can't get enough of Arvo Part and Gorecki.

Vanessa Mae and Yngwie Malmsteen are deeply evil.

Don't kown it there is but when you come to think of it perhaps some one like yo yo ma might be one or how about that irish flutest. There are some that come to mind but if there is such a thing not sure?

Notice I am not real educated in this style of music when I said how about that irish flutest I can't remember his name? oh well.

technically no, but there should be.

yea that would be sweet.

nah

Modern classical refers to the neoclassical movement of composers like Stravinsky, who were part of a classical revival of sorts. They mixed elements of classical era music with their own elements.

many modern "classical" composers but it tends to be a lot of atonal ugly music

Heres an easy answer,

yes their is such thing

Yngwie is Neo-Classical

I guess you could consider GY!BE and Esmerine modern classical music. They implement a lot of elements of classical music. See also: A Silver Mt. Zion, Do Make Say Think, Set Fire To Flames, Rachel's, etc...

I think of classical as the peak of music, it is the most challenging thing that one can play. So basically I see modern classical as anything that challenges a musican to excel and improve. Jazz is a close second, just because most jazz artist and composers have been classically trained.

Not Modern Classical But Contemporary Instrumental
 

I agree that It is not suitable to call a kind of music MODERN CLASSICAL. This kind of music is neither Classical nor Modern.They have the taste of Classical Music but some contemporary Instruments like Synthesisers. So ,in my opinion, we can call them Contemporary Instrumental Music.

The best example for this kind of music is the music of YANNI. I suggest you listen.:usehead:

yeah, that's what I was going to say. Jason becker is another neo-classical guitarist. I suppose it's modern classical in a way. Becker and yngwie are brilliant.

No, classical usually refers to the school of training. This is typically a music only idea. If I was to read Virgil and Homer and I wrote in that vein, I still wouldn't be a "classics" writer.

Classical in music refers to an approach for lack of a far more detailed responce.

In short, there can be a modern classical composer. Just not a modern classic one.

Yeah dude they're really cool...I was Malmsteen wasnt so overly arrogant though

Yes, Igor Stravinsky.

There are alot of modern composers.. forget post-rock, check out the label Tzadik.

Toby Driver in particular, his solo work and his band Kayo Dot.

Yeah, malmsteen's arrogance is pretty annoying, lol- brilliant guitarist though. It's so sad about becker's disease.

I say music can be what it wants as long as it's origonal and innovative.

modern classical - could mean anything I guess. Don't think it necessarily has to be original or innovative- something that derives from something else can be just as interesting to listen to.

not that innovative and original aren't good qualities of course! But Stravinsky plagiarised Bach, Oasis plagiarised the Beatles etc etc

"Modern Classical" Sure I think theres a such thing, if it doesn't fall into any other music category, the genre is classical but with some "modern elements"

god i loved that album, socool to chill out to. I still have it somewhere, and it introduced me to Michael nyman.:)

It can be "modern classical" if it's modern music, but based on the principles of the music written during the classical period, which fell roughly between 1730-1820 (between baroque and romantic).

Good call on Toby.

I'd call bands like godspeed you! black emperor, kayo dot, battles, as close as you will get to "modern classical"

AKA like Post-Rock - ish music...so i guess you could say that and Neoclassical are the closest things to a "modern classical"

Technically classical music is music from a certain time period of music with Mozart being the most well known composer today from that time period. Bach, Beethoven (borderline classical/romantic), Debussy, Chopin etc...are not technically classical composers, they are Baroque and Romantic.

However with so many different types of music, somewhere down the line when you go to you local music store all the "classical" composers are clumped together. Imagine separating them by Romantic, Baroque, Classical, Modern.

Now modern music, or modern "classical" is anywhere from the early 20th century till today. This period has the advent of atonality, and also a lot of experimental music. Experimental in its rhythm changes, tonality, or lack of....and there is also the beginning of electronic music, experimenting with noise effects etc....

Good modern music to check out Shoenberg, Shnitke, Milton Babbit, Holst "The Planets", Tokyo 77 (new experimental music)....

Or you could be thinking of Contemporary muci, which is uses the same instruments as classical (strings, woodwind, etc.) but has changed to more abstract, akin to the way art has changed.

the answer is no.

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Well, it depends. I mean modern pop is technically an evolution of classic pop, such as the beatles, isn't it? So technically you can have "modern" Classical music, which is an evolution of the old genre.

classical music is concert music from a certain era.."modern classical" as you put it would simply be "modern concert music"

calling something modern classical is a contradiction in terms.

I never said it was called modern classical, as far as I'm aware it's called "contemporary". I was just saying that the idea behind it was perfectly viable, and does exist, which was what the original question was.

Mogwai are abit classical, not a massive amount though... With a mix of some percussion in there...

Trans Siberian Orchestra is kinda like that, though they play alot of christmas music, they also have beethoven's last night which has beethoven and mozart on it as well