Opera lovers? - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > The Music Forums > Classical
Register Blogging Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-29-2012, 06:51 PM   #51 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
skaltezon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: hairball cluster
Posts: 326
Default

.

A mass is opera, isn't it?

The dramatic Confutatis and Lacrimosa
from Mozart's Requiem Mass in D Minor (K. 626)
English Baroque Soloists and the Monteverdi Choir
John Eliot Gardiner, conducting (Barcelona 1991)



.
skaltezon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2012, 01:44 AM   #52 (permalink)
air quote
 
Engine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: pollen & mold
Posts: 3,108
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by skaltezon View Post
.

A mass is opera, isn't it?

The dramatic Confutatis and Lacrimosa
from Mozart's Requiem Mass in D Minor (K. 626)
English Baroque Soloists and the Monteverdi Choir
John Eliot Gardiner, conducting (Barcelona 1991)



.
I like that clip but I think that an opera is a piece of theater (like with plots and acts performed in costumes, etc.), not just dramatic music.
__________________
Like an arrow,
I was only passing through.
Engine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2012, 03:37 AM   #53 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
skaltezon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: hairball cluster
Posts: 326
Default

.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Engine View Post
I think that an opera is a piece of theater (like with plots and acts performed in costumes, etc.), not just dramatic music.
Actually 'opera' is the plural of 'opus', which means 'work'. Many operatic arias and choruses are performed outside
the context of the parent work and without costumes, and in that respect aren't much different from the purely musical mass.

Here's one of my favorites from Rossini:



Qui Tollis from Rossini's Missa di Gloria
Performed by Tenor Diego Florez, the Chorus Viennensis,
Vienna Boys' Choir, and the Vienna Symphony Orchestra,
directed by Karel Mark Chichon.

.
skaltezon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 01:02 AM   #54 (permalink)
air quote
 
Engine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: pollen & mold
Posts: 3,108
Default

You're correct but I'm stuck in my own idioms so I don't think of those pieces as operas.
I like La Traviata and La Boheme well enough (as theatrical shows) but almost all operatic vocals turn me off.
__________________
Like an arrow,
I was only passing through.
Engine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 06:11 AM   #55 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
skaltezon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: hairball cluster
Posts: 326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Engine View Post
I like La Traviata and La Boheme well enough (as theatrical shows) but almost all operatic vocals turn me off.
I understand -- you'd prefer La Traviata had no singing in it.
skaltezon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2012, 03:04 AM   #56 (permalink)
Groupie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Posts: 4
Default

Though I haven’t witnessed an actual show, one of my dreams is to watch an opera. I was amazed by the performers, how they managed to sing in great voice by doing an actions and dance in particular.
myleszz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2012, 12:17 PM   #57 (permalink)
Groupie
 
9symphony9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 5
Default

I like Carmen.
9symphony9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2012, 06:44 PM   #58 (permalink)
Make it so
 
Scarlett O'Hara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,181
Default

I've only been exposed to Opera through movies but like the idea of going to a concert at some stage.
__________________
"Elph is truly an enfant terrible of the forum, bless and curse him" - Marie, Queen of Thots
Scarlett O'Hara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2015, 10:45 AM   #59 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
innerspaceboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: The Organized Mind
Posts: 2,044
Default

I'd like to develop a greater appreciation for opera and choral music. Presently I have only two selections in my library - a vinyl collection of Beethoven's choral works (a segment of his Bicentennial Collection) and selections from my copies of the 2-volume 111-disc Deutsche Grammophon Collector's Edition.

For further listening, a friend has suggested highlights and excerpted aria/scenes from:
  • La Boheme - Puccini
  • Tosca - Puccini
  • La Traviata - Verdi
  • Rigoletto - Verdi
  • Carmen - Bizet
  • The Mariage of Figaro - Mozart
  • Don Giovanni - Mozart
  • The Magic Flute - Mozart

And as for individual singers (other than the obvious ones like Pavarotti, Domingo, Callas, etc.) he recommends:
  • Rene Fleming
  • Angela Gheorghiu
  • Anna Netrebko
  • Denyce Graves
  • Susan Graham
  • Anne Sofie von Otter
  • Rolando Villazon
  • Jose Cura
  • SImon Keenlyside
  • Bryn Terfel
  • Jose van Dam
  • Nathan Gunn

I'd love additional input regarding other suggested listening, key labels to watch for, conductors, choirs, etc.



[EDIT: UPDATE] I populated a custom RYM list of the highest-rated opera recordings of all time. I've compiled lossless archives of each recording and prepared a playlist of the operas for my 9-5s at the office. Looking forward to taking them in!

Wilhelm Furtwängler / Ludwig Suthaus / Kirsten Flagstad
Tristan und Isolde (1953)

Orchestra and of La Scala Opera House, Milan / Chorus of La Scala Opera House, Milan / Victor De Sabata
Teatro alla Scala: Tosca (1953)

Vienna Philharmonic / Georg Solti / George London / Kirsten Flagstad / Set Svanholm / Gustav Neidlinger
Das Rheingold (1959)

Philharmonia Orchestra / Philharmonia Chorus / Carlo Maria Giulini / Eberhard Wächter / Joan Sutherland / Luigi Alva / Gottlob Frick / Elisabeth Schwarzkopf / Giuseppe Taddei / Piero Cappuccilli / Graziella Sciutti
Don Giovanni (1961)

Philip Glass
Einstein on the Beach (1979)

Wiener Philharmoniker / Georg Solti
Salome (1962)

The Stuttgart State Opera Orchestra & Chorus / Dennis Russel Davies
Akhnaten (1987)

Wiener Philharmoniker / Wilhelm Furtwängler / Martha Mödl / Ludwig Suthaus / Leonie Rysanek / Ferdinand Frantz / Gottlob Frick / Margarete Klose
Die Walküre (1954)
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chula Vista View Post
You are quite simply one of the most unique individuals I've ever met in my 680+ months living on this orb.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trollheart View Post
You are to all of us what Betelgeuse is to the sun in terms of musical diversity.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exo_ View Post
You sir are a true character. I love it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord View Post
You, sir, are a nerd's nerd.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marie Monday View Post
Just chiming in to declare that your posts are a source of life and wholesomeness
The Innerspace Connection | Essential Recordings | Top Archives | Hot 100 Albums | Top 550 Artists

Last edited by innerspaceboy; 07-19-2015 at 01:28 PM.
innerspaceboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2015, 09:34 AM   #60 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,548
Default

It's not necessarily operatic, but I really like Three Voices for Joan La Barbara by Morton Feldman. I think you'd appreciate it if you haven't heard it already, isb.
__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads



© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.