Music Banter

Music Banter (https://www.musicbanter.com/)
-   Classical (https://www.musicbanter.com/classical/)
-   -   The Classical Music Recommendation Thread (https://www.musicbanter.com/classical/49114-classical-music-recommendation-thread.html)

p-bo 11-05-2013 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgngrpiratex (Post 1380543)
I am reading a book by Aaron Copeland called, "What to listen for in Music" and am also currently taking piano lessons on the side. I am finally finding classical music fascinating to me, and was wondering if anyone could help me "broaden my horizons" so to speak. I started listening to a couple of artists, but I am more into the cheerful and "adventurous side of classical" like "The Pastoral symphony 6" by Beethoven and other artists like "Adagio for Strings" by Leonard Bernstein and "Water Music - Air" By George Fredrick Handel. Can anyone throw me some more suggestions!? I really want to find music that soothes the soul and helps me understand music better! Thanks guys!

Beethoven's 6th is lovely, and a great starting point. Schubert would be a natural choice. His entire catalog. Schumann as well.

Mr. Charlie 12-03-2013 09:58 PM


Frownland 12-06-2013 06:55 PM

Does anyone have any suggestions for something similar to the more adventurous early electronic classical composers like Iannis Xenakis, Luc Ferrari, and Karlheinz Stockhausen?

Burning Down 12-06-2013 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1392613)
Does anyone have any suggestions for something similar to the more adventurous early electronic classical composers like Iannis Xenakis, Luc Ferrari, and Karlheinz Stockhausen?

YT isn't loading for me at the moment, so I'm going to simply leave a list of composers and a piece you should check out first. A lot of these guys also used electronic sounds to complement or influence their other compositions, so check those out too.

Edgard Varèse - Poème Électronique (1958). This is a later piece of his. Also check out his very early stuff. Varèse was especially influential to Stockhausen, and also to the following:

Milton Babbitt - Composition for Synthesizer (1961)

Luigi Nono - Non Consumiamo Marx (1969)

Alfred Schnittke - Steam (1969)

Frownland 12-06-2013 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1392651)
YT isn't loading for me at the moment, so I'm going to simply leave a list of composers and a piece you should check out first. A lot of these guys also used electronic sounds to complement or influence their other compositions, so check those out too.

Edgard Varèse - Poème Électronique (1958). This is a later piece of his. Also check out his very early stuff. Varèse was especially influential to Stockhausen, and also to the following:

Milton Babbitt - Composition for Synthesizer (1961)

Luigi Nono - Non Consumiamo Marx (1969)

Alfred Schnittke - Steam (1969)

Ah yes, I love Varese's work. He's one of my favourite composers overall, tbh. I will check out the other recommendations, although I think I may have heard Babbitt before though I don't recognize him.

Also, thanks to rostasi for the informative PM, all great recommendations.

Burning Down 12-06-2013 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1392657)
Ah yes, I love Varese's work. He's one of my favourite composers overall, tbh. I will check out the other recommendations, although I think I may have heard Babbitt before though I don't recognize him.

Also, thanks to rostasi for the informative PM, all great recommendations.

Varèse is great. Density 21.5 is one of my favourite flute compositions.

Lord Larehip 12-07-2013 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1392658)
Varèse is great. Density 21.5 is one of my favourite flute compositions.

According to your Flute Meanderings thread, I introduced you to that. Did you get the sheet music or something? And do you know why it's called "Density 21.5"?

And if Frownland could swallow his moronic judgmental attitude towards me (what did I ever do to this putz?) and go check out my Concise History of Synthesation thread in the Electronica folder, he'd get a decent introduction to the avant-garde composers.

You know, I don't post this stuff for my health, folks, I post it for you. If you shut up your bitching and start reading, you COULD possibly learn something. I already know the s-hit.

Frownland 12-07-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1392892)
And if Frownland could swallow his moronic judgmental attitude towards me (what did I ever do to this putz?) and go check out my Concise History of Synthesation thread in the Electronica folder, he'd get a decent introduction to the avant-garde composers.

You know, I don't post this stuff for my health, folks, I post it for you. If you shut up your bitching and start reading, you COULD possibly learn something. I already know the s-hit.

:confused: I don't see where you're getting that. Is this in regard to the MB awards? I nominated you as I did because you're so damn condescending and it annoys the **** out of me. You can call not like people being douchebags moronic if you want, but I feel I'm justified. Plus I've already been reading that thread, so thanks I guess.

Lord Larehip 12-07-2013 01:55 PM

Quit lying. You just claimed you didn't know who Milton Babbit is on this thread. Now if you read my other thread then how could you say that? Last I checked, reading required more than skimming your eyes over the words. How's that for condescending? What a jerk,.

Frownland 12-07-2013 02:06 PM

Yup, that's the douchinesss that I was talking about. Let's quit derailing the thread now, if you want to continue this discussion send me a PM.

Burning Down 12-07-2013 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1392892)
According to your Flute Meanderings thread, I introduced you to that. Did you get the sheet music or something? And do you know why it's called "Density 21.5"?

Thanks, and no, unfortunately I haven't obtained the sheet music for it yet. I've been working on other pieces.

Varese was commissioned to write a piece for the first performance of a platinum flute. The density of platinum is 21.5 grams/cc which is why he named it so.

Quote:

You know, I don't post this stuff for my health, folks, I post it for you. If you shut up your bitching and start reading, you COULD possibly learn something. I already know the s-hit.
Who's bitching? No need to be condescending.

Lord Larehip 12-07-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1392914)
Varese was commissioned to write a piece for the first performance of a platinum flute. The density of platinum is 21.5 grams/cc which is why he named it so.

Really?? Learn something new everyday.


Quote:

Who's bitching? No need to be condescending.
I certainly might be condescending but I'm hardly alone.

Burning Down 12-07-2013 05:22 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Larehip;1392956]Really?? Learn something new everyday.

I thought you knew that already, since I think you were going to tell me?

Quote:

I certainly might be condescending but I'm hardly alone.
You also don't need to insult other members.

Lord Larehip 12-07-2013 06:04 PM

[QUOTE=Burning Down;1392959]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1392956)
Really?? Learn something new everyday.

I thought you knew that already, since I think you were going to tell me?

Why should I research when I can just get someone to tell me the answer?


Quote:

You also don't need to insult other members.
No nonononono. I'm not buying this s-hit anymore. Now you can go to the Spill Your Guts thread and it is full of people insulting other people. Nothing is said about that. Don't tell me it's ok to do it on that thread only. Insulting is insulting--period. If it's not ok to do it here, it's not ok to do it anywhere. And you know it. I don't like this selective way of enforcing the rules. Either enforce them or don't. You even signaled that it would be ok to have hypothetical insult thread and that absolutely does not make any sense if insulting is not allowed. Insults are insults. Period. Either enforce the rules or don't. But don't enforce them on some people and not others.

Burning Down 12-07-2013 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1392966)
No nonononono. I'm not buying this s-hit anymore. Now you can go to the Spill Your Guts thread and it is full of people insulting other people. Nothing is said about that. Don't tell me it's ok to do it on that thread only. Insulting is insulting--period. If it's not ok to do it here, it's not ok to do it anywhere. And you know it. I don't like this selective way of enforcing the rules. Either enforce them or don't. You even signaled that it would be ok to have hypothetical insult thread and that absolutely does not make any sense if insulting is not allowed. Insults are insults. Period. Either enforce the rules or don't. But don't enforce them on some people and not others.

Instead of further derailing this thread, please check your private messages.

Alexandre123 12-12-2013 05:57 AM

I would say the most difficult ones would be:

Britten
Schoenberg
Sibelius

Vince 01-28-2014 01:25 PM


Gubaidulina - Chaconne - YouTube


Liszt - Mephisto Waltz No. 1, S. 514 [André Laplante] - YouTube

And of course, my favorite from Beethoven:


Ludwig van Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 23 "Appassionata", Op. 57 [Complete] (Piano Solo) - YouTube

Wpnfire 02-10-2014 10:12 PM

Songs that sound like the opening for "Beyond" by Daft Punk.

Driveyourcardowntothesea, I believe (no pun intended) you said you had a few ideas?

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 02-11-2014 02:30 PM

^
I think you meant "Beyond."

Anyway, without knowing exactly what it is in that opening that tickles your funny bone (the dramatics? the specific melody?), here are a few suggestions. To be honest that opening sounds like probably a dozen film scores by John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith or a number of other modern composers. I'll have more later but here are a few to get you started.

You will probably have to turn your volume up for these:

The opening movement of Beethoven's 9th symphony is about as dramatic as you can get. This is my favorite recording of it.


The opening to Ferde Grofe's Grand Canyon Suite is somewhat similar, though you've got to wait a couple minutes for the woodwinds to build up to get to the part I'm thinking of (which starts at the 2:18 mark):

^
That opening literally brings tears to my eyes.

I'll have more later.

Here's another one I was looking for. Just listen until the 8:14 spot - one of the most dramatic openings in music ever. Gotta wait, it builds up to the part I have in mind.



Don't know if this fits your criteria. Much darker and brooding, but kinda-sorta the same thing.


^
If you like that, I've got some Rachmaninov you'd probably like too.

This one is probably closest to the Daft Punk piece I can think off the top of my head, aside from some movie scores:



Perhaps you already know this, but Prokofiev in general has lots of bouncy notes.




Deviouz 05-01-2014 08:36 PM

I really cbf listening to Classical, but I really want to get into it. For some reason.

The only dude I can listen to the whole way through is Moondog --- Moondog (1969)

Something along those line, please!

ASongADay 05-05-2014 11:50 AM

Hi everyone!

I have a classical recommendation: Lavinia Meijer - 'Nuvole Bianche'. (I can't post any links yet so you have to search for it yourself on Youtube ;) )
Lavinia is a Dutch artist, she plays the harp. I think it's a beautiful song.

Silenzio 05-05-2014 12:47 PM

Nuvole Bianche is originally written by the contemporary composer Ludovico Einaudi for piano.
The harp version sounds very soft and naturally beautiful. Thanks for the song recommendation. :)

My recommendation is an interesting interpretation of a famous piece of the 19th century.


ASongADay 05-06-2014 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silenzio (Post 1447072)
Nuvole Bianche is originally written by the contemporary composer Ludovico Einaudi for piano.
The harp version sounds very soft and naturally beautiful. Thanks for the song recommendation. :)

My recommendation is an interesting interpretation of a famous piece of the 19th century.


Thanks for the information! Didn't know that, but I have to admit I don't know anything about classical music apart from the famous pieces of Bach, Mozart etc.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 05-07-2014 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deviouz (Post 1445707)
I really cbf listening to Classical, but I really want to get into it. For some reason.

The only dude I can listen to the whole way through is Moondog --- Moondog (1969)

Something along those line, please!

Had never heard of that one before. Listening to it right now, interesting stuff.

It's got a little bit of Gershwin, a little bit of Beethoven, and frankly, a little bit of just about everything all in one album!

Wouldn't call this "classical" music, but I guess it's hard to categorize so might as well give it a random label. ;)

karkkilaaa 12-22-2014 09:46 AM

Does anyone of you guys have any classical recommendations for studying? Would be appreciated.

Frownland 12-22-2014 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karkkilaaa (Post 1526851)
Does anyone of you guys have any classical recommendations for studying? Would be appreciated.

Steve Reich - Music for 18 Musicians

I always feel like I have to be doing something smart when I listen to this piece.

MasterBaggins 12-26-2014 10:57 PM

I'm pretty into Beethoven's symphonies, a lot of orchestral soundtracks (Joe Hisaishi, Alien, LotR), I absolutely dig The Rite of Spring, and anything else by Stravinsky, but I'm looking for more artists to add, preferrably ones who are very adept at making complicated and difficult music, or at least very stimulating and emotional music.
More modern composers would be cool too, I've been getting into Philip Glass, but I want more and more!
Just a thought, I don't get bored easily, but if a song doesn't leave me wondering what it's about, I might not enjoy it, so very mentally stimulating music, if that helps at all.

Thanks a biscuit

Pet_Sounds 12-26-2014 11:09 PM

It's not a rec that will surprise anyone, but have you listened to Mozart at all?

MasterBaggins 12-26-2014 11:49 PM

Yup, a little, but I don't have a lot of his stuff in my collection, something I'm hoping to fix once the library opens up again.

Frownland 12-27-2014 12:00 AM

I recommending listening to Arnold Schoenberg (especially Verklarte Nacht, Op. 4. The most beautiful string quartet I've ever heard) for complex atonal music like Stravinsky (though the two approach the situation with two very different schools of thought) and Steve Reich (his phases and Music for 18 Musicians are great) for minimalist stuff like Phillip Glasshole.

And I also love John Cage, my favourite (modern and otherwise) composer. Check out Sonatas and Landscapes, A String Quartet in Four Parts, Four, and Roaratorio.

MasterBaggins 12-27-2014 04:06 PM

Sounds like a good deal. When the library opens on monday, I'll be sure to check out if they've got any of their stuff.
Also, sounds like you don't like Philip Glass too much. :p Or you just couldn't pass up the opportunity to get that joke in there.

C.jejuni 02-02-2015 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterBaggins (Post 1528657)
I'm pretty into Beethoven's symphonies, a lot of orchestral soundtracks (Joe Hisaishi, Alien, LotR), I absolutely dig The Rite of Spring, and anything else by Stravinsky, but I'm looking for more artists to add, preferrably ones who are very adept at making complicated and difficult music, or at least very stimulating and emotional music.
More modern composers would be cool too, I've been getting into Philip Glass, but I want more and more!
Just a thought, I don't get bored easily, but if a song doesn't leave me wondering what it's about, I might not enjoy it, so very mentally stimulating music, if that helps at all.

Thanks a biscuit

A completely different direction than the other suggestions, but try some of the pieces by Juan del Encina for some stimulating Renaissance music.

Marin Marais too. The viola da gamba is just perfect.

And yes, I'm a total Savall bitch.

GreenSplendor 02-21-2015 11:45 AM

not so sure whether I should post this in here or the experimental forum, but I'm looking for avantgarde composers. I've already listened to stravinsky and olivier messiaen, shostakovich, harry partch and I'm looking for more.

Frownland 02-21-2015 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenSplendor (Post 1554884)
not so sure whether I should post this in here or the experimental forum, but I'm looking for avantgarde composers. I've already listened to stravinsky and olivier messiaen, shostakovich, harry partch and I'm looking for more.

John Cage is the man and so is his teacher Arnold Schoenberg. You'd probably like Gyorgy Ligeti if you dig Messian.

Quality Cucumber 02-21-2015 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenSplendor (Post 1554884)
not so sure whether I should post this in here or the experimental forum, but I'm looking for avantgarde composers. I've already listened to stravinsky and olivier messiaen, shostakovich, harry partch and I'm looking for more.

This stuff isn't necessarily avant garde, but some might consider it as such.

George Crumb - Echoes of Time and the River (Echoes II)


Béla Bartók - String Quartet No. 5


György Ligeti - Piano Concerto


György Ligeti - Lux Aeterna


György Kurtág - Hommage à Robert Schumann


Pierre Boulez - Répons


Tōru Takemitsu - And Then I Knew T'was Wind


Maurice Ravel - Mirroirs, Mvt.5, "La vallée des cloches"

Thunder 02-28-2015 07:57 AM

Since this is a topic about recommendations:

I've been getting into classical music lately. I'm starting with Beethoven since it's one of the first musicians/artists I remember ever listening to. My mother has lots of CD's at home. I listened to symphony 1, 9 and now I'm listening to symphony 7.

Where should I go after Beethoven?

Zyrada 02-28-2015 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder (Post 1558166)
Since this is a topic about recommendations:

I've been getting into classical music lately. I'm starting with Beethoven since it's one of the first musicians/artists I remember ever listening to. My mother has lots of CD's at home. I listened to symphony 1, 9 and now I'm listening to symphony 7.

Where should I go after Beethoven?

Stravinsky's Symphony of Psalms
Poulenc's Concert Champêtre or Concerto for Organ, Strings, and Timpani
Ravel's Miroirs or Le tombeau de Couperin
Fauré's 4 Valse-Caprices

A mix of Romanticism and Neo-classicism seems appropriate considering where Beethoven falls historically. Stravinsky's Symphony of Psalms is probably the most grandiose of the bunch, although Poulenc's Organ Concerto comes close (and it's my personal favorite, as I think it has more emotional range), so if you want a big sound, I'd start there. If you're more into Beethoven's piano work, go with Ravel's Miroirs or Fauré's Valse-Caprices. (Out of the links I gave, anyway. I'm sure someone will have other recommendations that probably hew more closely to Beethoven's style and period.)

C.jejuni 03-01-2015 04:21 PM

@Thunder

Franz Peter Schubert may be right up your alley too. Wide variety of works, gigatons of piano music and songs with piano accompaniement, contemporary of Beethoven and close enough stylistically.
Just a few random examples:
8th "Unfinished" Symphony
youtube.com/watch?v=0mnrHf7p0jM

String quartet "Death and the Maiden"
youtube.com/watch?v=vnAoj_4rji4

"The Brook's Lullaby" from his song cycle "Die schöne Müllerin"
youtube.com/watch?v=kRaFkKd0fvs

Then there's Anton Bruckner, I don't really listen to him but he has some famous symphonies. Not sure what other kind of music he composed.

Try his 9th Symphony. The second movement is exceedingly dramatic.
youtube.com/watch?v=UbrpvEZw-Jo


If you're more interested in Beethoven's earlier work, his Classical era, an obvious suggestion would be Franz Joseph Haydn. Large musical output, more than a 100 symphonies, he was a tutor of Beethoven, the style is very close. I think you will like him.

"Il Terremoto" - The final part of his "Seven Last Words of Our Saviour on The Cross"
youtube.com/watch?v=H3LB0MePUW4

His famous "Emperor's" Quartett[/URL] whose second movement provides the melody for the German national anthem.
youtube.com/watch?v=fXQzhTv0ewI

His "Surprise" Symphony, named thus after an unexpected sudden loud part at one point.
youtube.com/watch?v=eVXalu0p1wo

His very eleganttrumpet concerto.
youtube.com/watch?v=w3nHgW5Pwag

Louis Spohr is another famous contemporary of Beethoven, and I am proud to say he chose to work in my homecity until his death - even though I don't listen to him a lot...

His 2nd Symphony
youtube.com/watch?v=loEJAHV1LK0

One of his "double quartetts"
youtube.com/watch?v=LL3qNLIJAG4

That's enough for now.

Thunder 03-03-2015 07:47 AM

Thanks for the help people. I'm listening to Stravinsky's Symphony Of Psalms and I enjoy it very much. I've also been listening to some Wagner

lisztomaniac 03-09-2015 05:14 AM

good modern classical music
 
I was wondering if anyone has any recommendations for modern symphonic composers, e.g. in the sound of Max Richter.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:34 AM.


© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.