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TockTockTock 10-02-2016 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1752933)
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It's a historical fact that classical music was not the music of the common man

it was funded by the wealthy for the wealthy, you would have heard it in the church that the affluent city folk attended but you would not hear it in a rural church of workers

the primary reason for this is it requires a lot of leisure time to learn and appreciate

The historical accuracy of your comment is not what is nonsensical — even though not all classical composers designed their music around the tastes of the wealthy.

It's nonsensical because its basis lies in the societal structures of then paralleling those of now, which is just incorrect.

The part in bold is incorrect as well. One does not need to learn/appreciate classical music in order to enjoy it. While it might be the case for some, this notion can be applied to any music.

For example, there was a time where I despised the music of The Beach Boys, but I eventually learned to appreciate and enjoy their music. The same can be said about The Fall (yes, I see your avatar). It took a while, but something eventually "clicked" after listening to (ironically enough) "The Classical." Now, they're one of my favorite post-punk bands, and Mark E. Smith stands as one of my favorite lyricists of all time.

Yet, I instantly loved The Goldberg Variations upon first listen. I didn't have to "get it" enable to enjoy it. I just enjoyed it for what it was.



Chula Vista 10-25-2016 03:28 PM

What the hell, I'll jump in the pool. Some of the best classical music I've been exposed to has been via present era movies. A great example is the opening sequence of Melancholia which uses Wagner's Tristan und Isolde Prelude to amazing affect. I immediately downloaded it and listen to it almost every day.

http://donniebshawn.com/Wagner-%20Tr...%20Prelude.mp3

So hauntingly beautiful.

*sniff*

Frownland 10-25-2016 03:32 PM

That's an excellent soundtrack choice on von Trier's part, I agree.

Chula Vista 10-25-2016 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1761852)
I agree.

https://media.tenor.co/images/aa9df0...36c5/tenor.gif

Frownland 10-25-2016 03:40 PM

The use of Handel on Antichrist is another good example of von Trier's soundtrack genius (which I am just realizing).

Chula Vista 10-25-2016 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1761855)
The use of Handel on Antichrist is another good example of von Trier's soundtrack genius (which I am just realizing).

Kubrick's use of classical in 2001 really set the stage for a lot of the modern directors. Especially how he used The Blue Danube during the docking sequence. Most Sci-Fi at that time showed everything whooshing through space with stars flying by and lots of mechanical noise. Kubrick showed how quiet, slow, and in a ballet sort of style, how beautiful movement in space really was.

von Trier shooting the opening of Melancholia in super slow motion with just the sounds of Wagner's piece almost echoed what Kubrick did with The Blue Danube.

djchameleon 10-27-2016 08:24 AM

This thread basically boils down to classical lovers coming to defend their genre. This thread doesn't mean what most people think it means. They read the thread title and are all like "oh hell no". I like classical music myself but I understand that question that Burning Down posed.

Frownland 10-27-2016 08:26 AM

Lol keep telling yourself that.

Chula Vista 10-27-2016 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1762279)
Lol keep telling yourself that.

He's right though. Any millennial who listens to a lot of classical is part of a large minority. This board can't be used as a consensus.

Frownland 10-27-2016 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1762293)
He's right though. Any millennial who listens to a lot of classical is part of a large minority. This board can't be used as a consensus.

I don't think you have to listen to something to recognize it and understand its relevancy.


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