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Old 09-01-2015, 11:08 AM   #231 (permalink)
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Default Best 5 Composers?

The finest composers aren't necessarily the ones I would like. The best are: -

5 - Shostakovich 15 astonishing Symphonies and 15 string quartets which invigorated the form, 2 great operas, a string quintet and so on showing a huge range of form and function - looking both forwards and backward. Unsurpassed irony and wit.

4 - Bartok - trail-blazed incorporation of South-East European, African and Asian musics into Austro-German mainstream. Master of counterpoint (rivaling to Bach), surpasses Brahms and Busoni in close harmony and extended and intense contrapuntal constructs while retaining a symphonic expansiveness in non-symphonic works, e.g. the scherzo movements in the 4th and 5th string quartets sound like a full orchestra is playing.

3 - Bach - Remarkable exploration of harmony and counterpoint as servants of pure beauty. Capable of conveying intense emotion within extended dramatic forms - Matthew Passion and Mass in B minor may be the finest large scale works in the repertoire, the ricecare and fugue from a musical offering the most transcendental of any Western music.

2 - Schubert's musical attributes combine seamlessly into something beyond the sublime. Divine lyricism, impeccable dramatic structure and romantic vision. NOTHING in Mozart remotely matches the spiritual journey of the late C major Quintet, the melancholy wit of the Arpeggione sonata, the symphonic integrity of the last three piano sonata, the depths of human feeling of the unfinished. I am weeping as I write.

1 - Beethoven displays every single attribute discussed above, with the possible exception of pulling in other musical cultures, although he was always interested. Bach and Schubert maybe divine witnesses of the human condition, Beethoven actually shapes it. In the third symphony we see the composer represent and confront his personal circumstances. We see his individuality rise triumphantly in musical form. In the fifth real demons are represented and confronted and vanquished in so complete a way that it remains a standard of triumph the human spirit. The sixth introduces the world to tone painting. The Allegretto of 7th has the most curious delineation of form and the wildest fugatos known to man. The late B flat quartet takes us through a remarkable and varied transcendental landscapes and ends with an exploration of atonality nearly a 100 years before Schoenberg. The late A minor contains the Heiliger Dankgesang eines Genesenen an die Gottheit, in der lydischen Tonart" (Holy song of thanksgiving of a convalescent to the Deity, in the Lydian Mode) the most profound meeting of human being and the divine in ALL human creation. I haven't even mentioned the ninth symphony of the Missa Solemnis.

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Old 09-01-2015, 11:25 AM   #232 (permalink)
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I would count all five of the composers in my previous post above any visual or literary artist.

Mozart has been omitted even though his Operas are damn wonderful and there is some interesting work on the Symphonic allegro in both his symphonies and later piano concertos. I think the crisis in the development of the first movement of the G minor is very beautiful, but while excelling at everything he fails to match the strengths of any of my top 5 and is way behind Beethoven.

Mahler limited himself almost exclusively to the Symphony. I sometimes feel trapped inside his oeuvre.

Liszt, Schumann and Chopin made profoundly transcendental investigations, but not enough range from either of these.

I have no words to justify my omission of Wagner or Brahms. Parsifal and the late Clarinet Quintet take me to places I have no right to go.

My favourite composers are

Roslavets

Schnittke

Hindemith

Brahms

Lutoslawski

I like dense counterpoint, close harmony and poetic conception.

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Old 09-01-2015, 11:52 AM   #233 (permalink)
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i'm new to classical music and the only CD i have is Bach's greatest compositions.
Really, you could spend a life time with that CD!

But, try these - all available on youtube!

the allegretto (2nd movement) of Beethoven's 7th Symphony - one youtube version has a visualisation.

Chopin waltzes

Delibes flower duet from Lakme

Prokofiev - the Knight's dance from his ballet Romeo and Juliet

That reminds me that Prokofiev should figure in either of my top fives. The 5th symphony is better than any of Shostakovich's and the 1st violin sonata is a short but spectacular journey.
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Old 09-02-2015, 04:58 AM   #234 (permalink)
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5 - Shostakovich - Symphony No 15 - a despairing, apocalyptic vision of the present. He ridicules the attitude of the Soviet state and I would also say the vast majority of people with incongruent excerpts from the William Tell overture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i71RLbflINY

4 - Nielsen - Symphony No 5 - seems contrived equally by emotional intent and by forces of nature themselves. Beauty tinged with pessimism and longing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6o3JnyVRCw

3 - Hindemith - Piano Sonata for duet - especially the slow movement which is ruled by foot-tapping syncopations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uisa3DhllGU

2 - Rachmaninov - Symphony No 2/ arr '5th piano concerto'. Not the greatest pieces ever written but certainly one of the most passionate - a guilty pleasure, indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfWFlMyfGYw

1 - Janacek - Sinfonietta -a poem to the glory and endless inspiration offered by nature.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbncXDimwbQ

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My personal favorite top 5 composers are (in order)

Tsjaikovski
Mozart
Camille Saint-SaŽns
Debussy
Beethoven
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Old 09-28-2015, 12:51 PM   #236 (permalink)
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Here's my top 5 classical composers list (print order):

Vivaldi
Bach
Mozart
Tchaikovsky
Strauss
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:44 AM   #237 (permalink)
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This is hard!

1=
Bach
Beethoven
Mozart
4 =
Handel
Verdi
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1.Beethoven
2.Mozart
3.Tchaikovsky
4.Chopin
5.Vivaldi
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Old 11-16-2015, 01:50 PM   #239 (permalink)
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1.Beethoven
2.Mozart
3.Tchaikovsky
4.Chopin
5.Vivaldi
That list needs Bach:

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5? Can't do it. Too difficult to narrow it down to so few. So I'm going to be a bad boy rule breaker and give 10.

In no particular order:

Mozart
Beethoven
Tchaikovsky
Mahler
Bach
Schubert
Chopin
Handel
Haydn
Brahms
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