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Old 03-08-2014, 07:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1. Bach
2. Vivaldi
3. Beethoven
4. Edvard Grieg
5. Tchaikovski

did I say, that I hate Mozart?
His music is so uncreative and he relied so much on skill and playfullness,
instead of touching the people with something deep
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did I say, that I hate Mozart?
His music is so uncreative and he relied so much on skill and playfullness,
instead of touching the people with something deep
I find it somewhat odd that you criticize Mozart for this, yet Tchaikovsky is in your top 5...
IMO, Mozart has a lot of material that I would describe as deep.

I'm not trying to tell you what to think, or that you should/must like Mozart it just seems a bit contradictory to me.
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I find it somewhat odd that you criticize Mozart for this, yet Tchaikovsky is in your top 5...
IMO, Mozart has a lot of material that I would describe as deep.

I'm not trying to tell you what to think, or that you should/must like Mozart it just seems a bit contradictory to me.
The thing about Mozart is that he is sitting on a throne, that so many musicians would earn to sit on a million times more than he does.

I didn't say that he is a bad musician or that there is absolutely no meaning in his music, but he is overrated times a zillion.

And yeah, I like Tchaikovsky. And I don't really see your point there :/
Mozart is Wiener Klassik(Vienna Classic?), while Tchaikovsky takes his elements from Russian Romantic Classic... :/ This is like comparing a banana to an avocado
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And yeah, I like Tchaikovsky. And I don't really see your point there :/
Mozart is Wiener Klassik(Vienna Classic?), while Tchaikovsky takes his elements from Russian Romantic Classic... :/ This is like comparing a banana to an avocado
My point wasn't to say that their music sounded similar, but rather that the playfulness and percieved lack of depth that you see in Mozart, I see just as prevalent, if not more so, in for example Tchaikovsky. That's why I thought it seemed contradictory to not (at least seemingly) hold him up to the same standards as you do with Mozart.

Don't get me wrong though, I have nothing against Tchaikovsky, but "profound" or "deep" are not among the first words I would use to describe his music.
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My point wasn't to say that their music sounded similar, but rather that the playfulness and percieved lack of depth that you see in Mozart, I see just as prevalent, if not more so, in for example Tchaikovsky. That's why I thought it seemed contradictory to not (at least seemingly) hold him up to the same standards as you do with Mozart.

Don't get me wrong though, I have nothing against Tchaikovsky, but "profound" or "deep" are not among the first words I would use to describe his music.
oh, yeah. That might actually be true..
He's not the most deep guy there is,
but I love Tchaikovsky, I can't explain why.
might be the charm of russian classic
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