Taraf de Haïdouks

Quality Cucumber · 02-17-2015, 06:41 PM

Badass Lăutari band from Clejani, Romania.

misspoptart · 02-18-2015, 08:49 AM

This is legit awesome. You and your video are both quality, cucumber. Welcome to the best part of MB, and please don't go! I almost feel like I've heard the song before somewhere. Do you know if it's used in any mainstream stuff I might have seen? Also: are you Romanian?

Omg! I fgured out where I have heard something similar:

COINCIDENCE?

Quality Cucumber · 02-18-2015, 12:02 PM

Thanks for the kind words. I'll certainly stick around this forum; I love traditional music. Romani music is one of my passions. I am not Romanian, but I was introduced to this group by my composition teacher, who is from Romania.

misspoptart · 02-19-2015, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quality Cucumber

Thanks for the kind words. I'll certainly stick around this forum; I love traditional music. Romani music is one of my passions. I am not Romanian, but I was introduced to this group by my composition teacher, who is from Romania.

That's lovely! So you study composition. I don't know what that's like but I imagine you yourself are an instrumentalist as well? I used to play violin (poorly) but I'd love to get back into it someday.

Quality Cucumber · 02-19-2015, 05:06 PM

You should pick it up again. Violin is difficult because you really need to work to get decent tone and intonation, but it is a rewarding instrument. It wouldn't be hard to go to thesession.org, pick out a couple of tunes, and learn to play them. That's what I did when I started learning mandolin back in October (mandolin and violin are tuned the same way).

misspoptart · 02-20-2015, 01:05 AM

Thanks for the encouragement! It's too bad my violin is far away in Maine right now xD I live in Istanbul. I think I was hesitant to bring it here but I think I'll be here for a while, and I guess I should just bring it over next time I'm there.

I do miss it!

By the way, any other Taraf de Haidouks tracks you recommend?

Quality Cucumber · 02-20-2015, 06:30 AM

Oh, right, the topic. Their music is a way of life. Gypsy musicians develop their skills from an early age. Watch this documentary from 17:20 to see little kids shredding alongside members of the band (and please do watch the rest as well):

(Unfortunately, the only interview is with the producer. Still, a good documentary.)

Their musicianship is incredible and the stock of the music is traditional, so anything you hear is going to be pretty consistent. I like these a lot:

Mugur, Mugurel (Little Buds)

A beautiful song. Originally, the lyrics are about Russian communist tyranny in Moldova (Translation of "Mugur, mugurel" by Tudor Gheorghe from Romanian to English), but I don't think they're singing the same lyrics in this version.

The Return of the Magic Horses

I love this one. So damn fast! At 3:59, the flute (Ney? Kaval?) plays a melody that I've heard before, but in a completely different context (Peruvian folk music, I think). I'll try to find it.

These next two have very rhythmic vocal work:

Dumbala Dumba

Carolina

The only record that I would consider questionable is Maškaradǎ, which is a bunch of arrangements of Gypsy-influenced classical music. It doesn't have the same sincerity to me. That said, this is sick:

Ostinato and Romanian Dance (Béla Bartók)

Lisnaholic · 02-28-2015, 07:13 PM

I´ve really enjoyed these Taraf de Haidouks clips too. I especially like the metallic percussive thing that comes in about 4 mins into the first clip.
I see what you mean about the last track, which has lost a little of the genuine gypsy sound, but actually that´s probably the first album I´m going to explore. I guess that being a wedding band, it´s necessary to play some fast, furious, joyous music, but I´d be much more interested in some mellower material from them - any suggestions, QC ?

Quality Cucumber · 03-01-2015, 01:50 AM

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I especially like the metallic percussive thing that comes in about 4 mins into the first clip.

You mean the cimbalom.

These ones are mellower:

Suita Maškaradǎ

Absinth I Drink You, Absinth I Eat You

Sorrow, My Only Sorrow (Dorul meu e numai dor)

In A Persian Market

Check out "Mugur, Mugurel" in my previous post.

Lisnaholic · 03-01-2015, 09:33 AM

Hey, thanks, Quality Cucumber ! That first clip was all that I had hoped for ; a sedate pace and lots of -ahem- cimbalom.
That last track, In a Persian Market, I´ve heard before, but in a rather too smooth classical incarnation. For me, your version strikes just the right balance and confirms that Maskarada is the album for me!

BTW, if you´re interested in Gypsy music, you might like to look at the following thread, started by our very own misspoptart. ( In a furthur by the way, the Latcho Drom movie that Right-Track mentions is quite extraordinary.)

http://www.musicbanter.com/country-f...-chalga-2.html

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Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	I´ve really enjoyed these Taraf de Haidouks clips too. I especially like the metallic percussive thing that comes in about 4 mins into the first clip. I see what you mean about the last track, which has lost a little of the genuine gypsy sound, but actually that´s probably the first album I´m going to explore. I guess that being a wedding band, it´s necessary to play some fast, furious, joyous music, but I´d be much more interested in some mellower material from them - any suggestions, QC ? __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

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Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	Hey, thanks, Quality Cucumber ! That first clip was all that I had hoped for ; a sedate pace and lots of -ahem- cimbalom. That last track, In a Persian Market, I´ve heard before, but in a rather too smooth classical incarnation. For me, your version strikes just the right balance and confirms that Maskarada is the album for me! BTW, if you´re interested in Gypsy music, you might like to look at the following thread, started by our very own misspoptart. ( In a furthur by the way, the Latcho Drom movie that Right-Track mentions is quite extraordinary.) http://www.musicbanter.com/country-f...-chalga-2.html __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

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02-18-2015, 08:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
misspoptart gimme gimme Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: istanbul Posts: 897	This is legit awesome. You and your video are both quality, cucumber. Welcome to the best part of MB, and please don't go! I almost feel like I've heard the song before somewhere. Do you know if it's used in any mainstream stuff I might have seen? Also: are you Romanian? Omg! I fgured out where I have heard something similar: COINCIDENCE?

02-18-2015, 12:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Quality Cucumber Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 60	Thanks for the kind words. I'll certainly stick around this forum; I love traditional music. Romani music is one of my passions. I am not Romanian, but I was introduced to this group by my composition teacher, who is from Romania.

02-19-2015, 05:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Quality Cucumber Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 60	You should pick it up again. Violin is difficult because you really need to work to get decent tone and intonation, but it is a rewarding instrument. It wouldn't be hard to go to thesession.org, pick out a couple of tunes, and learn to play them. That's what I did when I started learning mandolin back in October (mandolin and violin are tuned the same way).

02-20-2015, 01:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
misspoptart gimme gimme Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: istanbul Posts: 897	Thanks for the encouragement! It's too bad my violin is far away in Maine right now xD I live in Istanbul. I think I was hesitant to bring it here but I think I'll be here for a while, and I guess I should just bring it over next time I'm there. I do miss it! By the way, any other Taraf de Haidouks tracks you recommend?

02-20-2015, 06:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
Quality Cucumber Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 60	Oh, right, the topic. Their music is a way of life. Gypsy musicians develop their skills from an early age. Watch this documentary from 17:20 to see little kids shredding alongside members of the band (and please do watch the rest as well): (Unfortunately, the only interview is with the producer. Still, a good documentary.) Their musicianship is incredible and the stock of the music is traditional, so anything you hear is going to be pretty consistent. I like these a lot: Mugur, Mugurel (Little Buds) A beautiful song. Originally, the lyrics are about Russian communist tyranny in Moldova (Translation of "Mugur, mugurel" by Tudor Gheorghe from Romanian to English), but I don't think they're singing the same lyrics in this version. The Return of the Magic Horses I love this one. So damn fast! At 3:59, the flute (Ney? Kaval?) plays a melody that I've heard before, but in a completely different context (Peruvian folk music, I think). I'll try to find it. These next two have very rhythmic vocal work: Dumbala Dumba Carolina The only record that I would consider questionable is Maškaradǎ, which is a bunch of arrangements of Gypsy-influenced classical music. It doesn't have the same sincerity to me. That said, this is sick: Ostinato and Romanian Dance (Béla Bartók)