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Wudadi111 10-13-2015 10:59 PM

Introduction & sharing Asian Music
 
My account have been banned twice.

First,
You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.
Date the ban will be lifted: Never

Second,
You have been banned for the following reason:
Can't have your broken english spamming up the boards bud, sorry
Date the ban will be lifted: Never

I just want to share Asian music. However, I can't post any link until I post more than 15 threads/replies.

Wudadi111 10-13-2015 11:25 PM

I don't know why they ban me twice. In order to count up quickly, some posting are short. So they ban my account?

"No reason was specified."
(Does it can be a reason to ban me?)

"Can't have your broken english spamming up the boards bud, sorry"
(even the word "english" without capitalize first letter, my broken English...)

In my opinion, I didn't broke the MusicBanter Forum Rules.

If there is no full reason to ban me, I think this forum is................

grindy 10-13-2015 11:51 PM

Reported :D

Plankton 10-14-2015 06:20 AM

You're welcome to share Asian music, as long as you're not promoting, selling, or soliciting your own.

Maybe you should make an introduction thread:

Introductions - Music Banter

Mr. Charlie 10-14-2015 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wudadi111 (Post 1642751)
I think this forum is................

In another castle? ;)

But seriously, don't get banned. Get your post count up and share your recommendations. I'm always eager to discover new music, especially when it's claimed to be the greatest.

Wudadi111 10-14-2015 09:38 AM

I want introduction different Asian music. However I need to share some music as a example. I can talk about different music instrument, and different music style/trait.

Wudadi111 10-14-2015 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1642783)
In another castle? ;)

But seriously, don't get banned. Get your post count up and share your recommendations. I'm always eager to discover new music, especially when it's claimed to be the greatest.

Once I can share YouTube music on this forum, My plan is introduction Manchu Music first. I assume that you know what is Manchu. Later, I'll introduction other region and ethnic music in Asia.

Exo 10-14-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wudadi111 (Post 1642748)
My account have been banned twice.

First,
You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.
Date the ban will be lifted: Never

Second,
You have been banned for the following reason:
Can't have your broken english spamming up the boards bud, sorry
Date the ban will be lifted: Never

I just want to share Asian music. However, I can't post any link until I post more than 15 threads/replies.

Want to know why I banned you? Here you go. Here are some of the posts you made as Wudadi...

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Those are posts you made. That's spam. That's why you were banned the first time. This are the posts you made with your second account, Wudadi1...

From a thread title called "Japanese Music" you gifted us with this post...
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Japanese music.
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Does cello can cope with sad emotional music?
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Pop music is the same in the world because all the pop music in the world use western instrument
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Sad emotional song
Your answer to the question "What is Ska?"

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Punk
I could keep going. The only posts that halfway resemble intelligent thought are in this thread. I understand you're Chinese, but I can't have those kind of posts being made on the board. It looks horrible and it's confusing. Also, coming back twice after you've been banned is not a very smart thing to do. Since your posts in this thread seem to be concise and presumably sincere, I'll let you stay. If you start making posts like above again, you're getting banned and your IP will be banned as well.

Like I said, sorry. It's just we can't have posts like the ones above being made just because a user doesn't fluently know English. I'd love for you to type Chinese here, but nobody would understand. You get me? Nothing personal.

Wudadi111 10-14-2015 10:56 AM

Asian Music

Include:

Manchu(Tungus) Music

Mongol Music

Korean Music

Yamato(Japanese) Music

Uyghur(The Western Region/Central Asia = Xinjiang province + Kazakhstan + Kyrgyzstan + Tajikistan + Uzbekistan) Music

Tibet Plateau(Tibet province + Qinghai province + Bhutan + Nepal + Kashmir) Music

Southwest(Yunnan province + eastern Myanmar + northern Thailand) Music

Vietnam(+Lao) Music

Han-Chinese(Northern Han-Chinese + Sothern Han-Chinese north = 7 different regions) Music

Taiwan(Indigenous peoples) Music-----as a special part

North Asia(also can be included in Manchu/Tungus & Mongol) Music

Exo 10-14-2015 11:01 AM

Wonderful. Thanks.

Wudadi111 10-14-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1642848)
Wonderful. Thanks.

As you know, before I just want to count up my posts as soon as possible. Because I can't post any link until I post more than 15 threads/replies. I want to introduce Asian music knowledge, meanwhile I need to share some music on this forum.

Exo 10-14-2015 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Wudadi111 (Post 1642849)
As you know, before I just want to count up my posts as soon as possible. Because I can't post any link until I post more than 15 threads/replies. I want to introduce Asian music knowledge, meanwhile I need to share some music on this forum.

That's against the rules.

Music Banter Rules

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• Multiple or repeated posting in order to increase your post count is not allowed.
Also a rule.

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• Please make an effort to ensure your posts are written in an intelligible way and are not formatted in a distracting manner.

Oriphiel 10-14-2015 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Wudadi111 (Post 1642832)
My plan is introduction Manchu Music first.

Not if San Te has anything to say about it!

https://thetofuchitlincircuit.files....astakiller.jpg

Wudadi111 10-14-2015 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1642863)
Not if San Te has anything to say about it!

https://thetofuchitlincircuit.files....astakiller.jpg

Sorry, I don't know what you mean.
Something wrong with Manchu music?
I don't know who is San Te, and your picture is a Buddhist monk.

I want to show you a Manchu Shaman drum, but I can't.
(1.You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 15 posts or more.)

Wudadi111 10-14-2015 03:04 PM

On page one, I posted a list about different area of Asian Music.

Different region and race have different music style/trait.

Each region of the music, I can use 4 Chinese characters to summarize their music trait, but Translate it to English I need to use more words.

Again, it just a music trait summary, it's not a specific instructions. (I want to talk about them later, while I can share music on here)

So, here is the Asian music trait summary list.

Manchu(Tungus)---Call of Shaman (呼唤萨满)

Mongol---Prairie Totem (草原图腾)

Korea---Thousands of years of a Red-Crowned Crane (千年一鹤)

Yamato(Japanese)---Immolation Devil and God (献祭魔神)

Uyghur(The Western Region/Central Asia)---Dance Partner of Tambourine (手鼓舞伴)

Tibet Plateau---Buddha Zen Sound (佛陀禅音)

Southwest---Bonfire and Bamboo Dance (篝火竹排)

Vietnam(+Lao)----Sad Melody of One String Zither (独弦忧律)

Han-Chinese---Elegant and Classic Ceremony music (礼雅典乐)

Taiwan(Indigenous peoples)---Original Moan (原始哼吟)

These music trait summaries are related to their instrument, singing style, music style, culture background, history............

If you have some knowledge about Asian music, you can understand these music trait summaries' meaning.

Mr. Charlie 10-14-2015 04:24 PM

Ohhh. You really do know a lot of Asian music. Only 7 more posts... :)

Stephen 10-14-2015 06:01 PM

I don't believe the 15 post limit applies to youtube videos.

Like this one..


Wudadi111 10-14-2015 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1642942)
I don't believe the 15 post limit applies to youtube videos.

Like this one..


In western world, the most popular Mongolian music from Russian-Tuva Huun-Huur-Tu band.

After 1700, Russia conquer all the North Asian nomad, and eat a lot of Mongolian territories. After 1860, Russia let Qing dynasty give them a lot of Northeast and Northwest territories. U.S.S.R let Mongolia Independent and Mongolia become their vassal. Therefore, nowadays Russia have some great Mongolian music band.

Because Russia conquer Tuva in 1914. They can easily spread their music in western world.

Tuvan throat singing was found by a Russian.

So throat singing be called Tuvan throat singing in English

In fact, throat singing is a nomad singing style. Chinese historical book recorded that Xiongnu(Huns) already has throat singing.

So throat singing popular in Russian, Mongolia, China(Inner Mongolia province), Central Asia(Historical reason)

There are some beautiful throat singing songs in Mongolia and China, but western people don't know it.----because these songs don't have English name.

I have listened a lot of throat singing songs, I think the best singing throat song is a Manchu throat singing song.
The name is "Manchu Music---Xibe(Chinese Ethnicity) Girl---满族音乐---锡伯姑娘 "
You can find it on YouTube, this Manchu throat singing is high pitch-throat singing.

There are two types of throat singing. One is high pitch-throat singing, another is low pitch-throat singing. Your YouTube video is low pitch-throat singing.

Btw, the most popular Huun-Huur-Tu music is
huun huur tu & carmen rizzo - ancestors call (eternal)
Huun Huur Tu & Carmen Rizzo - Orphaned Child
Huun Huur Tu & Carmen Rizzo - In Search of a Lost Past
Carmen Rizzo & Huun Huur Tu - Mother + Taiga
..........................................
You can copy the name of these 4 songs and find it on YouTube. (Maybe you know it)

I think their(Huun-Huur-Tu) music is the Mongolian epic music. However, there are many beautiful Mongolian music you can't find on YouTube and western music website.

I'll talk about Mongolian music style, trait and instrument later, I still want to talk about Manchu music first.

Frownland 10-14-2015 07:59 PM

There are more than two types of throat singing. You have kargyraa, which is the low, rumbling type of singing that uses your vestibular folds. Then you have khoomei, which is the one with the higher whistling controlled by emboichre. Then you have sygt, which sounds just like khoomei, but has a wider range and can hit more overtones. Plus underneath all of these you have various substyles, oidupaa kargyraa is probably the most well known.

One of the cooler things that I find about Tuvan throat singing is that the techniques are to mimick different elements of nature: wind blowing down mountainsides, water swirling through rocks, etc.

Wudadi111 10-14-2015 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1642920)
Ohhh. You really do know a lot of Asian music. Only 7 more posts... :)

Because I'm Chinese. :D

I think you know about your country's traditional/folk music too.

It's hard to count up post.

I reply Stephen post about a little Mongolian throat singing knowledge.
I also mention one Manchu music and four Mongolian music. If you like it. You can copy the name and find them on YouTube.

Your picture is a Chinese Temple. You like Taoist?

Wudadi111 10-14-2015 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1642954)
There are more than two types of throat singing. You have kargyraa, which is the low, rumbling type of singing that uses your vestibular folds. Then you have khoomei, which is the one with the higher whistling controlled by emboichre. Then you have sygt, which sounds just like khoomei, but has a wider range and can hit more overtones. Plus underneath all of these you have various substyles, oidupaa kargyraa is probably the most well known.

One of the cooler things that I find about Tuvan throat singing is that the techniques are to mimick different elements of nature: wind blowing down mountainsides, water swirling through rocks, etc.

Someone said 7 types of throat singing. As I know a Mongolian musician said there are 4 types of throat singing. I know the Chinese name, but I don't know the English name. In general, I think there are three main types: high, low and high + low

In China, Mongolia Japan,....we just call it throat singing. Because throat singing isn't a Tuva's patent.

Your are right throat singing is that the techniques are to mimick different elements of nature. It has an official Chinese name, but I forgot it. Ancient nomad people start to mimick the sound of river, mountain, forest, wind and animals like cattle, sheep, horse.....In the end, this sound become throat singing. btw, If you are Asian maybe you know it, If you aren't good find. :thumb:

Frownland 10-14-2015 08:44 PM

Not Asian in the slightest, I just like beautiful music.

Wudadi111 10-14-2015 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1642978)
Not Asian in the slightest, I just like beautiful music.

But I'm sure you don't have any knowledge about Manchu Music---the Northeast nomad groups. In fact, Manchu isn't a typical Nomad, most of their ancestors live in forest. like a hunter and a fishman.

That's why I really want to share and talk Manchu music first.

Due to some reason, people in the world know about Japanese music, Mongol music. but, other part of Asia they have limited knowledge. even Han-Chinese music and Korean music(I'm not talk the Korean pop, all the pop music is western music and using western instrument)

If I don't talk about Manchu music, I think you never hear it before.:afro:

Frownland 10-14-2015 09:26 PM

I can't even find the genre on a google search to check whether or not I did know any of those artists. Cough it up, what are some good albums to check out?

Also, to post youtube videos, you don't need fifteen posts. You just need to take the link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzrrijkzA7U, for example) and then take the bit after "watch?v=" (which would be WzrrijkzA7U in this case) and post that text in between youtube tags. Quote this post to see what the final result looks like.



(Video is not related to this thread btw, Ayler is an American artist).

The Batlord 10-14-2015 09:54 PM

Exo is a racist.

Wudadi111 10-14-2015 10:00 PM

Manchu music

Name:
Xibe(Chinese Ethnicity) Girl (I translate it in English)

Detail:
Manchu traditional plucked string instrument(it called two strings) + Manchu throat singing.

I love this Manchu throat singing and this Manchu traditional plucked string instrument so much.



Today, I just want to share this Manchu music. I’ll share more Manchu music + Manchu music trait and instrument detail on Tomorrow.

Wudadi111 10-14-2015 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1642987)
I can't even find the genre on a google search to check whether or not I did know any of those artists. Cough it up, what are some good albums to check out?

(Video is not related to this thread btw, Ayler is an American artist).

You can't find any music about Manchu because Just Chinese know about Manchu music in the world.

Thank you so much :thumb: Right now, I can post YouTube video. :wave:

Wudadi111 10-14-2015 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1642996)
Exo is a racist.

Why you say that?......:confused::eek:
You mean he doesn't like Asian? In this thread, I don't want be banned again:(

Frownland 10-14-2015 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Wudadi111 (Post 1643000)
Why you say that?......:confused::eek:
You mean he don't like Asian? In this thread, I don't want be banned again:(

As long as you're not black, Exo will probably be cool and not ban you. It's fucked up, but it's what we've come to accept.

The Batlord 10-14-2015 10:18 PM

We'd replace him as a mod, but none of us want to do it, and neo-Nazis are good at telling people what to do.

Mr. Charlie 10-15-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Wudadi111 (Post 1642956)
Because I'm Chinese. :D

I think you know about your country's traditional/folk music too.

It's hard to count up post.

I reply Stephen post about a little Mongolian throat singing knowledge.
I also mention one Manchu music and four Mongolian music. If you like it. You can copy the name and find them on YouTube.

Your picture is a Chinese Temple. You like Taoist?

Do you live in China?

I do like Taoism, yes, very much. It's a way of life that makes my heart sing.

Exo 10-15-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1642996)
Exo is a racist.

My true colors.

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Originally Posted by Wudadi111 (Post 1643000)
Why you say that?......:confused::eek:
You mean he doesn't like Asian? In this thread, I don't want be banned again:(

Well, stop being Chinese.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1643001)
As long as you're not black, Exo will probably be cool and not ban you. It's fucked up, but it's what we've come to accept.

I hate everyone.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1643002)
We'd replace him as a mod, but none of us want to do it, and neo-Nazis are good at telling people what to do.

Shut your f*cking mouth.

The Batlord 10-15-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1643178)
My true colors.

Or lack thereof.

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Well, stop being Chinese.



I hate everyone.



Shut your f*cking mouth.
I don't think you're doing yourself any favors with the newbie. NAGL for a mod.

Mr. Charlie 10-15-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1643178)
Well, stop being Chinese.

:laughing:

The Batlord 10-15-2015 02:39 PM

Hey, if Michael Jackson could quit being black...

Mr. Charlie 10-15-2015 02:49 PM

You hold him down, I'll bleach him.

Wudadi111 10-15-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1643115)
Do you live in China?

I do like Taoism, yes, very much. It's a way of life that makes my heart sing.

Right now, I'm living in Toronto.

Do you live in China?

Taoism........So, I guess you like Han-Chinese music too.

Mr. Charlie 10-15-2015 04:06 PM

I live in the UK and have never been to China but would love to visit. It looks beautiful.

I'm not familiar with Han-Chinese music or Asian music in general. But hopefully you can help change that.

Wudadi111 10-15-2015 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1643230)
I live in the UK and have never been to China but would love to visit. It looks beautiful.

I'm not familiar with Han-Chinese music or Asian music in general. But hopefully you can help change that.

Han-Chinese music = Chinese music(in English)

Because there are 56 nationalities in China

People in the world just call all of them are Chinese, but you know some Chinese are Mongolian, Manchu, Uyghur, Tibetan...........

Every nationalities have their own Music style.

There are more than 90% people in China are Han-Chinese, more than 98% people in Taiwan are Han-Chinese.

Therefore, Han-Chinese music, Chinese call it "Ancient customs/wind music"

As you know, I don't want to share any Asian Pop or Asian Rap & Hip-Hop...................I just want to share some music or songs that use their particular traditional instruments. Some western instruments + traditional Asian instruments music also okay. However, I don't want to share Asian music which only use western instruments like piano, violin.....on this thread.

Exo 10-15-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1643185)
I don't think you're doing yourself any favors with the newbie. NAGL for a mod.

Newbe shmoobie.


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