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Old 01-21-2018, 07:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Also, anyone interested in house music
Durban-style should check out the still
going strong gqom music scene there.
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Old 01-21-2018, 04:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm pretty much pasting (most of) what I wrote over in the 'whatcha listening to' thread:

Bullets for Bafazane by Juluka.



Here's the context behind the album this song is from, Work For All: this is 1983, apartheid-era South Africa. Juluka is headed by two men, white Johnny Clegg and Zulu Sipho Mchunu. At this time the band had six members, three of them white (Clegg on guitar, Gary van Zyl on bass and Tim Hoare on keyboard) and three of them black (Mchunu on guitar, Zola Mtiya on drums and Scorpion Madondo on sax). As you can imagine their existence was enough to ruffle the establishment's feathers.

I'll share some more on the album itself in the South African music thread. The entire endeavor is a seamless blending of 1980s rock and traditional Zulu music and beats.

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Kind of shameful that I know nothing else from South Africa.
Frown, here's your rec. Mic, you now know another South African artist.
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I'm going to expound a bit on the songwriting on Work For All.

I've already shared Bullets For Bafazane. The song addresses the problem of violence in the townships - which is sadly still a massive problem over 30 years later.

This album is Juluka at their most politically and socially aware, and it makes for some excellent English lyrics. Take the imagery in this next song, Mdantsane (Mud Coloured Dusty Blood):

Why don't you sing about the African moon?
Why don't you sing about the leaves and the dreams?
Why don't you sing about the rain and the birds?
'Cause mister, I've seen:

Mud coloured dusty blood
Bare feet on a burning bus
Mud coloured dusty blood
Broken teeth and a rifle butt


Can't believe I almost forgot to share the song...

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The album before Work for All, which was called Scatterlings,
was so incredibly overplayed in the States that there was a
palpable hatred for this band (and, later, Savuca) that I think
caused them to fall off the radar soon afterwards and
people I knew who had a scattering of interest in
mbaqanga were glad to see Clegg and Co. gone.
They gravitated more towards Hugh Masekela,
Lizzy Mercier Descloux, and the Mahotella Queens.
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Don't worry, I won't spam this thread with all of one artist I'll come back every now and then to share stuff I've found from others.

Hopefully some actual South Africans will pop in and offer their perspective. Everything I know South Africa-wise is, ultimately, all second-hand info gleamed from my father, and it's only a matter of time before I get something wrong when it comes to cultural tidbits. I know zeppy111 (whose file of modern SA music Lisna shared earlier in this thread) is South African but last he logged in was back in 2012.
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Mic, you now know another South African artist.
I was trying to think of who for a while, but I'm drawing a blank. It might be someone I never even knew was South African.
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Well, Hugh Masekela died yesterday. Here's a live performance from 1993 that Lisna shared with us earlier:

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And here's another I found that I enjoy very much: Masekela and his former wife Miriam Makeba performing Soweto Blues in 1988.



For anyone interested in history: Soweto Blues is a song about the Soweto uprising of June 16, 1976.
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^ That's a nice clip, Gunmouth. Strange that the poor guy should die right after we'd been talking about him.

On a different note, haha, Amampondo is a band who mix a bit of jazz with a traditional sound. Their trademark is a steady marimba percussive groove. Whether you find it hypnotic or a little long-drawn out depends a lot on your mood I think. Anyway, this is one of their better tracks, imo:-



BTW, Amampondo means "people of Mpondo" so it's a word for a particular social group, as well as a guy's name and a song - so no one should feel bad if they get confused. I haven't checked, but if it's a city, a style of music and a brand of jeans too, I won't be surprised.
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I'm looking forward to checking out the tracks in this thread when I finally get in front of a computer. I like quite a bit of South African music myself.
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^ That'd be good, Janszoon - if you are true to form, I bet you'll be pointing us to some obscure artist in a sub-genre we've never heard of
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