The Great Global Warming Swindle (house, Atmosphere, American, quote)

just for kicks · 06-12-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

The ozone layer, which you're referring to as "the hole in the atmosphere", is not caused by rising CO2 levels. The ozone layer was caused by the presence of CFCs in the upper levels of the atmosphere (the stratosphere I think). CFCs are unreactive under normal ground-level conditions and were used as propellants or coolants in various products but when escaped CFCs reach the stratosphere there is a lot more high energy UV radiation which breaks the CFCs into radicals and some of these radicals can react with ozone, so the result is the loss of ozone from the stratosphere.

That is unconnected to CO2 levels.

that is correct. a reason why people dont think its that serouis (and i probably should of included this in my previous post) is because they havent heard all the facts. Its not just CO2 and Methane that are doing the damage, its also other greenhouse gases and compounds such as CFCs.

all the facts havent been made clear

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe · 06-12-2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nikhil

Dude what i am angry about is that instead of spending money on global warming prevention we should use it for environmental protection -
What i am trying to prove is that no matter how much CO2 we emit its not going to make a ****ing difference . So instead of spending money on global warming there are more important issues to be addressed like -
Making drinking water available .
Fighting poverty .
These are much more important .

I totally for environment protection! but not for protection against a threat that does not exist !

You're a fucking idiot, plain and simple.

nikhil · 06-13-2007, 02:32 AM

dude, where i come from, people are very much in need of drinking water

Barnard17 · 06-13-2007, 05:05 AM

You do realise that global warming is damaging access to drinking water by melting the snow and glaciers on mountain tops, causing flooding which mixes drinking water with sewage making it undrinkable?

It r all linked.

DontRunMeOver · 06-13-2007, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nikhil

dude, where i come from, people are very much in need of drinking water

You're telling me! I went with about ten people to Bangalore once, for just three days, and within that time five of them got the shits.

Improved access to clean drinking water is primarily a local issue, for governments to sort out for their own citizens. Purifying a water supply only really affects the people who use that water supply, and those who interact with them. As a political argument, I don't think that "we aren't going to cut down on greenhouse gas emissions because people here don't have clean drinking water" holds that much weight, certainly not internationally where the politicians of the other nations don't really care about whether or not your citizens have access to drinking water... they're not voted in to give a toss about that I'm afraid.

In Bangalore, for example, if the money that comes in through call-centres, computing and biotech was pumped into making clean drinking water available - rather than whatever the hell else they've been spending it on (big buildings, clubs and clothes I think) - then that drinking water issue wouldn't be so much of a problem.

Bane of your existence · 06-13-2007, 08:56 AM

Nikhil, I hope that's not your picture so I can hate you more purely without thinking that you're atleast hot.

brianmtuk · 06-13-2007, 04:39 PM

If we stopped all C02 emissions tomorrow it would make no difference. The amount of tree's we chop down every day will keep the C02 levels rising anyway cos there will be nothing to soak it up!

.V. · 06-13-2007, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bane of your existence

Nikhil, I hope that's not your picture so I can hate you more purely without thinking that you're atleast hot.

haha.

Sparky · 06-13-2007, 08:42 PM

Interesting Argument About Global Warming Video

pretty interesting video, totally agree with him

Kevorkian Logic · 06-14-2007, 07:00 AM

nikhil.

Do you really think the countless number of extremely educated scientists who spend their lives studying global warming have no clue what is going on? Do you really believe that what you said is true? Because, while some of it is fact based, you take leaps which shouldn't be taken.

You're not the only "intelligent" person in the world. And the fact that you think everybody on the site is media educated, means that you really aren't as intelligent as you believe.

We would not be spending billions of dollars researching a non-existent problem, one of the scientists would of caught on to the non-existent idea if it was true.

06-13-2007, 05:05 AM	#34 (permalink)
Barnard17 My home? Discabled, Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 204	You do realise that global warming is damaging access to drinking water by melting the snow and glaciers on mountain tops, causing flooding which mixes drinking water with sewage making it undrinkable? It r all linked. __________________ Vita brevis, Occasio praeceps

06-13-2007, 04:39 PM	#37 (permalink)
brianmtuk Groupie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: milton keynes Posts: 7	If we stopped all C02 emissions tomorrow it would make no difference. The amount of tree's we chop down every day will keep the C02 levels rising anyway cos there will be nothing to soak it up! __________________ BigFunWithBrian.Com 'For people who like fun'

06-14-2007, 07:00 AM	#40 (permalink)
Kevorkian Logic Imperfectly Perfect Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,290	nikhil. Do you really think the countless number of extremely educated scientists who spend their lives studying global warming have no clue what is going on? Do you really believe that what you said is true? Because, while some of it is fact based, you take leaps which shouldn't be taken. You're not the only "intelligent" person in the world. And the fact that you think everybody on the site is media educated, means that you really aren't as intelligent as you believe. We would not be spending billions of dollars researching a non-existent problem, one of the scientists would of caught on to the non-existent idea if it was true. __________________ "it is only through a limitless accumulation of the imperfect that a certain type of perfection can be attained"

06-13-2007, 02:32 AM	#33 (permalink)
nikhil Groupie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: bangalore Posts: 48	dude, where i come from, people are very much in need of drinking water

06-13-2007, 08:56 AM	#36 (permalink)
Bane of your existence Such That Join Date: May 2007 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 1,197	Nikhil, I hope that's not your picture so I can hate you more purely without thinking that you're atleast hot.

06-13-2007, 08:42 PM	#39 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	Interesting Argument About Global Warming Video pretty interesting video, totally agree with him