Immigration (country, American, quote, history, Hang)

savannah · 03-04-2008, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE

ANYONE in any country illegally should be deported IMMEDIATELY, they are a burden to the tax system and are not the responsibility of the inhabitants of that country.

My take for what it's worth

i agree,....whole heartedly,......

even though its hard to say that comming from a country that was built on the backs of immigrants,....
however i agree

i see it alot specially here in texas,......

simplephysics · 03-04-2008, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE

ANYONE in any country illegally should be deported IMMEDIATELY, they are a burden to the tax system and are not the responsibility of the inhabitants of that country.

My take for what it's worth

You could say that about old people.

sleepy jack · 03-04-2008, 05:12 PM

I sympathize with the immigrants and think we should be more active in helping them since we not only help put them in the poverty mess they're in but continue to encourage it. God bless America.

Quote:

Originally Posted by savannah

ignorant,...i dont think that you are ignorant,...however i do feel as though non texans rarely really understood what went on,.....nor do i see how it relates to the us, as texas was fighting to become its own country when that happened,....

personally, sometimes i still feel like we should succeed, as we still have to right to you know,....

Urgh this is why people hate Texans. You weren't in the Mexican war. You don't know what went on anymore then anybody else.

right-track · 03-04-2008, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savannah

i agree,....whole heartedly,......

even though its hard to say that comming from a country that was built on the backs of immigrants,....

...at the expense of the natives.

sweet_nothing · 03-04-2008, 05:14 PM

Will somebody tell me who roger is.

swim · 03-04-2008, 05:14 PM

I agree that people enter countries illegally are wrong. I have no objection with that whatsoever. My issue is that system we use doesn't work because in many cases it's more lucrative and time efficient to enter illegally.

Texas would've immediately became a state if it wasn't for that slavery thing which ironically all the land we got from the Mexican War made a bigger issue of.

I'm pretty sure all confederate states had to ratify something saying they weren't allowed to succeed

savannah · 03-04-2008, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right-track

At the expense of the natives.

youre right,...youre very right,.....

we brought illness and slaughtered them, then we forced them to move to crapy land

i understand that,.....however i'm not gonna sit here and say America is evil,...because i dont believe it is,....
and its not just America,.....other countries have done some quite unsavory things,....we has humans are destructive and everything we 'gain' is normaly at a high cost

as for immigration,...i have no problem with immigrants, i have a problem with illegal aliens

swim · 03-04-2008, 05:18 PM

I think it's ridiculous that people can't better their lives because of damn imaginary line.

sleepy jack · 03-04-2008, 05:18 PM

I'll copy/paste my post from the other thread discussing this, here is a history lesson for everyone.

Our economy would be fucked over (even more so) if you got rid of all the illegal immigrants in our country. Aside from that I can hardly blame them for wanting to come over. The majority of Mexicans that are middle aged to older men who cross the border on there own to get a job and then they send cash to their families over the border because they just can't make fair wages over there which is The United States's fault and we have no interesting in fixing it or trying to help. America launched a huge predatory lending spree on Mexico like 35 years ago and it's been a huge factor in Mexico's now poor economic situation. Then Mexico hired an America accounting group to help sort it out and with the help of the US Government Mexico began building all the low wage malquiladoras and they working conditions are pretty sub standard for every country and have turned back allies of cities like Juarez into basically killing fields for Mexican women. Anyway, the farmers from Mexico are being forced from there land and sent to work in factories. This smashes possibly generations of culture and history for these people and take away the only life that they have ever know. Many people simply move to the city and work in the factories there for sub standard wages so they can go home to there 1 room shitty houses and try to raise there family, but many also seek the border as a possibility. Meanwhile the US continues to push Mexico into a minimum pay war with other countries to establish them as a low cost alternative to Asian manufacturing. This way US companies can keep up with there slave labor wages and at the same time save on sending it over sea by sending it across the border. The United States has put Mexico into a complete quagmire and leaves them no practical solutions to get out.

sweet_nothing · 03-04-2008, 05:19 PM

If mexico fixed their own country they wouldn't be dying to get over here.

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swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	I agree that people enter countries illegally are wrong. I have no objection with that whatsoever. My issue is that system we use doesn't work because in many cases it's more lucrative and time efficient to enter illegally. Texas would've immediately became a state if it wasn't for that slavery thing which ironically all the land we got from the Mexican War made a bigger issue of. I'm pretty sure all confederate states had to ratify something saying they weren't allowed to succeed __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

03-04-2008, 05:18 PM	#18 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	I think it's ridiculous that people can't better their lives because of damn imaginary line. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/