Immigration (country, quote)

swim · 03-04-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

texas is the only state in the union with the right to succeed,....its still in the contract,...irronically enough, the seal, under the rotunda, in the cap building in austin still reads 'the republic of texas'

and you're wrong,..texas would not have become part of the union had it not been for the slavery issue,...
first texas was not a huge slave state,....we didnt have all the plantations of the south,....we were not the south,...we were/are texas,.....we didnt need the workers that the south needed to economically sustain,....
we were too busy building a country,.....i might add that texas fought the mexicans for our land,.....america did not fight the mexicans,....

and its not the mexican war,....its the war for texas independence,....

also, when we defeated them,....the mexicans.....they were deamed undefeatable,....its a wonder we even won

We used 3 times as many troops and they weren't as well off as they could be from the recent war with Spain.

I think I'll call it what my history teacher with his masters calls it. mmk.

The issue had more to do with congressional votes than if slaves actually lived in Texas.

savannah · 03-04-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by swim

We used 3 times as many troops and they weren't as well off as they could be from the recent war with Spain.

I think I'll call it what my history teacher with his masters calls it. mmk.

The issue had more to do with congressional votes than if slaves actually lived in Texas.

when you say 'we' what exactly are you refering to? and call it what you will,...i know what it is

as for texas joining the union, i'm not denying that slave votes might have had a hand in the vote,....but the issue of texas's independence happened about a decade before we even considered joining the union,...so to say that had it not been for slaves we would have automatically been a 'state' is preposterous

sleepy jack · 03-04-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

when you say 'we' what exactly are you refering to? and call it what you will,...i know what it is

as for texas joining the union, i'm not denying that slave votes might have had a hand in the vote,....but the issue of texas's independence happened about a decade before we even considered joining the union,...so to say that had it not been for slaves we would have automatically been a 'state' is preposterous

I find your attitude towards Mexicans funny considering your signature.

savannah · 03-04-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

I find your attitude towards Mexicans funny considering your signature.

as i find your attitude funny seeing as how your not even old enough to vote,...fight for your country,.....nor have you been in the work force long enough to see your hard earned tax dollars ill spent

sleepy jack · 03-04-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

as i find your attitude funny seeing as how your not even old enough to vote,...fight for your country,.....nor have you been in the work force long enough to see your hard earned tax dollars ill spent

I'm sorry as an American citizen I thought I had freedom of speech or at least the freedom to recite history which everyone seems to be conveniently ignoring. Jack Kerouac would be disgusted with your attitude.

savannah · 03-04-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

I'm sorry as an American citizen I thought I had freedom of speech or at least the freedom to recite history which everyone seems to be conveniently ignoring. Jack Kerouac would be disgusted with your attitude.

you do have that right,...and i applaud you for useing it as so many young people just dont care,...
but i also have the right to tell you what i think about it

savannah · 03-04-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

. Jack Kerouac would be disgusted with your attitude.

i got too caught up and didnt get to respond to this statement the way i'd like,....

i enjoy kerouac's words, just as i enjoy the music of the hippie movement,....i can identify with and read/listen/watch many things that i necessarily agree with whole heartedly,.....
so this statement really bares not on me,.....as i'm sure there's many thing that kerouac might have done that would disgust me as well,.....

my political and eithical views can be quite different from the things i expose myself too

adidasss · 03-04-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

as i find your attitude funny seeing as how your not even old enough to vote,...fight for your country,.....nor have you been in the work force long enough to see your hard earned tax dollars ill spent

So it's better to spend your hard earned tax dollars on war and killing than on Mexicans?

savannah · 03-04-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

So it's better to spend your hard earned tax dollars on war and killing than on Mexicans?

the war is a totally different issue,....and one that i will not get off into here

however, i will say, our tax dollars are spent on much more than use funding the millitary,....and war,...

we have hungry needy AMERICANS that could use that help as well,....
and while i will admit, supporting illegal aliens is not the only way our tax dollars are illspent,...it is the one that directly relates to the issue we are discussing

sleepy jack · 03-04-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

we have hungry needy AMERICANS that could use that help as well,....
and while i will admit, supporting illegal aliens is not the only way our tax dollars are illspent,...it is the one that directly relates to the issue we are discussing

And we're doing a totally good job of housing and supporting them.