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View Poll Results: Hate Crimes?
Yes 14 34.15%
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:43 PM   #91 (permalink)
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I was responding to this:
'Well there is always something like this, but in more severe cases racial hate is always checked out.'
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:43 PM   #92 (permalink)
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If a man punches another man in the face because of religious differences, he should be punished.

If a man punches another man in the face because of some fight at a football game, he should be punished.

if both are punished with the same sentence then there is a clear message that religious discrimination is OK.
Discrimination isn't a crime. Having a set of values that involves disassociating, discluding, distrusting, or disliking someone based on any elements of their being is fine. For instance, parse the following two sentences...

I hate muslims.

I hate people who beat their wives.

Are either acceptable, and why?
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:46 PM   #93 (permalink)
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Discrimination isn't a crime. Having a set of values that involves disassociating, discluding, distrusting, or disliking someone based on any elements of their being is fine. For instance, parse the following two sentences...
Actually discrimination is a crime.
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:46 PM   #94 (permalink)
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Uh, what?
I do think people should have extra time in jail for racial crimes?

And yes it is ok to hate people who beat wives.

No it is not ok to hate muslims.
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:48 PM   #95 (permalink)
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Discrimination isn't a crime. Having a set of values that involves disassociating, discluding, distrusting, or disliking someone based on any elements of their being is fine. For instance, parse the following two sentences...

I hate muslims.

I hate people who beat their wives.

Are either acceptable, and why?
beating your wife is not
but why Muslims, true Muslims are some of the most pacifists philanthropist
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:52 PM   #96 (permalink)
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I do think people should have extra time in jail for racial crimes?

And yes it is ok to hate people who beat wives.

No it is not ok to hate muslims.
Why not? As long as you don't act on it, you're not committing a crime. If you attack a Muslim for being a Muslim then you're punished for whatever damage you do to him/her.
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Actually discrimination is a crime.
The few laws that apply to discrimination are all work and school related and don't apply to personal living. On my own time I can hate any subset of people I wish to for any or no reason at all. I can also down talk them as long as doing so doesn't create a situation where they could lose money. Furthermore I can deny said subset of people access to my property.

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I do think people should have extra time in jail for racial crimes?

And yes it is ok to hate people who beat wives.

No it is not ok to hate muslims.
So by your admittance its okay to hate a subset of people based on a characteristic, aka discriminate against wife beaters, but not muslims. Why should muslims get special treatment over wife beaters?
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:58 PM   #98 (permalink)
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Why not? As long as you don't act on it, you're not committing a crime. If you attack a Muslim for being a Muslim then you're punished for whatever damage you do to him/her.
we are going round in circles here.

You cannot hate a man for being muslim, god you should be arrested for being a ****ing idiot if you do, that in itself is a crime for being so stupid.

Being Muslim, there is absolutely nothing bad about that and only the most close-minded unintelligent people can make such a broad assumption that all people who are muslim are bad and that there is a reason to hate them.

On the other hand, there is a reason to hate people who beat their wives. I don't even need to explain it.
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:59 PM   #99 (permalink)
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So by your admittance its okay to hate a subset of people based on a characteristic, aka discriminate against wife beaters, but not muslims. Why should muslims get special treatment over wife beaters?
because you saying you hate all muslims is probably based off of the handful of radicals that decide strapping a bomb to their back and blowing up a mosque full of innocent people will bring them closer to God.
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we are going round in circles here.

You cannot hate a man for being muslim, god you should be arrested for being a ****ing idiot if you do, that in itself is a crime for being so stupid.

Being Muslim, there is absolutely nothing bad about that and only the most close-minded unintelligent people can make such a broad assumption that all people who are muslim are bad and that there is a reason to hate them.

On the other hand, there is a reason to hate people who beat their wives. I don't even need to explain it.
So simply being a muslim isn't a valid enough reason to hate someone? Why is that? What dictates validity of feelings?
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