Hate Crimes (Religious, quote)

bruise_violet · 04-13-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

So simply being a muslim isn't a valid enough reason to hate someone? Why is that? What dictates validity of feelings?

No, of course it is not.

If the Muslim was a wife beater, then sure hate the bastard, but don't bring up his religion.

Being a Muslim is not something you can judge a character on.

WHY are you so idiotic?

655321 · 04-13-2008, 03:11 PM

i supose if you want to be just another stereotypical ignorant-intolerant-blind westerner that could be a good enough reason

simplephysics · 04-13-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

So simply being a muslim isn't a valid enough reason to hate someone? Why is that? What dictates validity of feelings?

Because hating someone for no reason other than "just because" is ignorance in the highest degree.

bruise_violet · 04-13-2008, 03:13 PM

Would it be hypocritical of me to say that Unfan is a complete and utter idiot because of his views?

Miltamec Soundsquinaez · 04-13-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

So by your admittance its okay to hate a subset of people based on a characteristic, aka discriminate against wife beaters, but not muslims. Why should muslims get special treatment over wife beaters?

How about the fact that their name identifies them exemplifying reproachable behavior.

A wife beater is someone who carries out physical abuse on their wife, which I think we can all agree that it's anti-progressive because it leads the woman to feeling physical pain, and having lower self-esteem, and it enables the wife-beater to stay stuck in the same controlling rut, which leads him to lower self-esteem. Meanwhile, a Muslim is only a person who follows the religion of Islam, and there is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with that.

bruise_violet · 04-13-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy

How about the fact that their name identifies them exemplifying reproachable behavior.

A wife beater is someone who carries out physical abuse on their wife, which I think we can all agree that it's anti-progressive because it leads the woman to feeling physical pain, and having lower self-esteem, and it enables the wife-beater to stay stuck in the same controlling rut, which leads him to lower self-esteem. Meanwhile, a Muslim is only a person who follows the religion of Islam, and there is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with that.

Not to mention the majority of them are good people unfortunately tarred with the same brush of those who are radical and extremist...

'I am not a terrorist, please do not arrest me' Vivienne Westwood.

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-13-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy

Meanwhile, a Muslim is only a person who follows the religion of Islam, and there is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with that.

Not "wrong" persay because a behavior can't be wrong since a behavior is always what it is. On the other hand, it can be subjectively bad, and since subjectivity is the very nature of what we're talking about its still a valid thought. Why is viewing something as bad so bad?

bruise_violet · 04-13-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

Not "wrong" persay because a behavior can't be wrong since a behavior is always what it is. On the other hand, it can be subjectively bad, and since subjectivity is the very nature of what we're talking about its still a valid thought. Why is viewing something as bad so bad?

Hate leads on to hate crimes.

I vote for you to shut up.

655321 · 04-13-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

Would it be hypocritical of me to say that Unfan is a complete and utter idiot because of his views?

yes but acceptable

bruise_violet · 04-13-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 655321

yes but acceptable

ah good I can live with being a hypocrite in this instance.

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